If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up


You assert as fact that primitive people invented God to answer their ignorance. You deny the existence of God to answer your ignorance.
How primitive are you!

Concerning chessterd5’s post I find it necessary to make a few corrections. First, I fixed most of his typos. But I also wish to comment on his inaccurate presentation of data. I am doing this to show that not all of us who are on the “creationist” side totally lack scientific knowledge. That sort of misrepresentation makes us all look bad. So here goes . . .
“There is no concrete evidence of evolution from DNA sequencing. The human race has NEVER created a simple amino acid in a laboratory environment AND SUSTAINED IT! That’s just the tip of the iceberg, my understanding is that there are eight (8) essential amino proteins to create life as we know it.”
You are wrong. There are 23 known amino acids found in the living organisms we know of. 20 would be enough if we only look at eukaryotes (organisms with nucleated cells). I’m not sure what you mean by “amino proteins”. There are hundreds of different amino acids. The 20 I refer to above are called “standard amino acids”. They are protienogenic (protein building). In life, thousand of proteins are formed from amino acid peptide chains.
“. If we can't do it in a controlled laboratory environment with EXTREME intervention & manipulation by persons who are ALREADY predisposed to acquiring the answer that they want to begin with, why would you believe that it happened "naturally" in a viotale (sic - do you mean “volatile?) & uncontrolled environment.”
Wrong again. We have been synthesizing amino acids since at least 1953. This gets a little beyond my specific knowledge, so I copy and paste: “Amino acids can be synthesized in the laboratory by application of the Gabriel synthesis (potassium phthalate + α-halo acids) or the Strecker synthesis (condensation of aldehyde, ammonia, and HCN, followed by acidic hydrolysis of the intermediate α-amino nitrile). The racemic amino acids thus obtained can be resolved by acylation and subsequent enzymatic deacylation.This route provides both (S) and (R) amino acids. Alternatively, direct asymmetric synthesis of either the (S) or the (R) enantiomer can be applied. The Monsanto process uses the Rhodium catalyzed hydrogenation of achiral N-acetyl dehydroamin.”
“This means that those unguided natural processes you are referring to had to do it WITHOUT help not once, eight (or 20) INDIVIDUALISTIC times & ARRANGE themselves? There’s another way. Genesis chapter 1.”
I agree, it seems improbable. Devoted evolutionists think that in view of the immense size of the universe and the 14.5 billion year allowance for time they can account for random formation of the necessary complex biochemical composition of life. Just having all the necessary subcomponents doesn’t bring inanimate molecules to life.
Whew. I finally have had some time to spend showing that some of doubters have a scientific background. My apologies to chessterd5. I hope you enjoy the corrections.

The overall message I seem to get from this thread is that people like to hear themselves talk.
Hehe... Unforunately true.

Life is so filled with emotion that it actually is the center of us....Want proof ?
Ask yourself....why are you doing what you're doing ? It will come back that you're being motivated by your emotions. And alotta the times it's either from love or hate. Oh sure....you can run from them, but you can't hide. They'll find you every time.
And something else. The materialist can try to push away that their emotions don't guide their decisions ?....but it'll just reinforce them. The materialist hasta deal w/ this fact....whether they like it or not.
Not good.

ZigyStardust It's obvious from your internet name and from what you wrote you're still a child.
Your so naive
Ziggy Stardust is the name of an album by David Bowie, from the early 70s
you keep arguing with me i keep rubbing it on ur face!
good job
Hmm... You're missing a g though...
I'm not sure you know the meaning of naive... Naive means youthfully guillible.
And last of all, you haven't rubbed anything in his face except your post.
Nice work.

Science which gave us Big Bang theory is wonderful because it also gave us comfortable houses, computers, internet and so on. Religion which gave us presentation of God is wonderful because it improved our morality and made us kinder.

ok why is the breed of the human race is always making the same logical mistake?
when you read the word the creator, it doesnt automatically imply religion or jesus or whatever.
not darwin either
the creation is subject of physics, not biology
get ur facts right!
grow up all of u
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a person or thing that brings something into existence."James Bond's creator Ian Fleming"
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used as a name for God.noun: Creator; noun: the Creator
synonyms: God, the Lord, the Almighty, the Master of the Universe; one's Maker"the Sabbath is kept to honour the Creator"
I'm sorry to say, Ziggy, that is was perfectly obvious to everyone but you what Quantum Lee meant.
Your request that we grow up is somewhat uncalled for, not to mention hypocritical.
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ok why is the breed of the human race is always making the same logical mistake?
when you read the word the creator, it doesnt automatically imply religion or jesus or whatever.
not darwin either
the creation is subject of physics, not biology
get ur facts right!
grow up all of u
according to you physics is the creator of creation?

As is God...
Yes, God does bless husbands and wives honeymoons with a Big Bang!

ok why is the breed of the human race is always making the same logical mistake?
when you read the word the creator, it doesnt automatically imply religion or jesus or whatever.
not darwin either
the creation is subject of physics, not biology
get ur facts right!
grow up all of u
I'm sorry to say, Ziggy, that is was perfectly obvious to everyone but you what Quantum Lee meant.
Your request that we grow up is somewhat uncalled for, not to mention hypocritical.
OK ONE MORE TIME:
THE CREATOR (OR GOD OR ALLAH) IS NOT JESUS OR VICE VERSA
NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE JESUS ACTUALLY EXISTED
AND FOR MUSLIMS JESUS IS JUST ANOTHER PROPHET
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
:p
Yes...? Your point?