gopher_the_throat

Sep 8, 2015

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#661

ZigyStardust wrote:

theres nothing wrong w/ my english

ur just stupid

i get emails from stanford professors

they write I as i

its the internet

deal

Well I guess you are entitled to use whichever style of writing you prefer but I would point out that this is a forum not an email or text message. If you want to communicate with those not initiated into the e-world it is a poor decission but if you want to limit your message go ahead. I hate text messaging. It's an attempt to use as few characters as possible to express simple ideas but it is not an indication of whether or not you are stupid.

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#662

GabrieleMiceli wrote:

God is a miracle. People should rejoy that there is a God that loves us. Instead people are angry, they dont want this God. This i will never understand.

You are sooooooo right. I just don't understand why so many people are angry at Santa Claus either. What did he ever do to you?

Nobody wants this Santa claus, they all hate him for some reason.

Any time I provide evidence of Santa(presents under my tree), people get very angry at me and at Santa for some reason. They try telling me that presents under a tree doesnt mean that Santa exists, but I know they are only hateful people who only want to deny the truth.

sounds about right, eh?

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#663

ZigyStardust wrote:

drpsholder wrote:

ZigyStardust wrote:

dont confuse apples w/ oranges

im giving beethoven as an example

btw a music piece is a creation not an idea

But the music piece started out as an idea. WOW, I wonder why you guys are having a hard time figuring this out??

Its as if you don't want to figure it out. Why are you trying to NOT understand when you could be trying to understand?

why be so against learning? Or is it because you CANT learn? Which is it?

Dont WANT to learn or just simply CANT learn? LOL

no music is sound

im a musician/composer

dont humiliate urself

And its an idea that was created into music...........someone CREATED the music! Wow, you are not too bright are you?

But its quite funny to see you think that Im the one who's going to humiliate myself. This shows/proves that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about and then projecting your humiliation onto me!

Please don't run away from me. I need people like you to humiliate themselves.........so I can laugh. Without you, Im no longer entertained! LOL

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#664

ZigyStardust wrote:

drpsholder wrote:

ZigyStardust wrote:

dont confuse apples w/ oranges

im giving beethoven as an example

btw a music piece is a creation not an idea

But the music piece started out as an idea. WOW, I wonder why you guys are having a hard time figuring this out??

Its as if you don't want to figure it out. Why are you trying to NOT understand when you could be trying to understand?

why be so against learning? Or is it because you CANT learn? Which is it?

Dont WANT to learn or just simply CANT learn? LOL

no music is sound

im a musician/composer

dont humiliate urself

So now we got that straightened out and we can see that I was right..........someone created the music. It was an idea that someone converted/created into sound, i.e. music.

So, again, since Im right...........why are you having a hard time understanding something so simple? Why don't you want to help me figure out why you are not able to understand? why don't you want to know why you are not able to understand?

Is it because you dont WANT to understand or simply CANT understand? Which is it? LOL

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#665

gopher_the_throat wrote:

Stephanson - I lean toward the argument that the creator(s) we are talking about is/are not composed of of matter, electrons, neutrons, protons and other things with mass that interact with each other using gravitation, electric charge or weak and strong nuclear energy. We are talking about the creation of the material world. Primitive minds thought of this creation as magic and simply think iof that creator as "the Eternal". In modern times we have caught a glimpse of how this was done without magic. The subset of the material universe resulted in a laboratory of the Master Scientist(s). The Masters do not require a creator.

Yes, we learned that it happens naturally. There is not one shread of evidence for anything supernatural.

We have yet to test it, measure it, etc. But we can test and measure natural processes.

Which should we believe? The evidence based theory or the faith based(non evidence) theory?

If we believe the faith based theory, then what's stopping you from believing all the other theories that have no evidence?

yureesystem

Sep 8, 2015

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#666

rpsholder wrote:

gopher_the_throat wrote:

Stephanson - I lean toward the argument that the creator(s) we are talking about is/are not composed of of matter, electrons, neutrons, protons and other things with mass that interact with each other using gravitation, electric charge or weak and strong nuclear energy. We are talking about the creation of the material world. Primitive minds thought of this creation as magic and simply think iof that creator as "the Eternal". In modern times we have caught a glimpse of how this was done without magic. The subset of the material universe resulted in a laboratory of the Master Scientist(s). The Masters do not require a creator.

Yes, we learned that it happens naturally. There is not one shread of evidence for anything supernatural.

We have yet to test it, measure it, etc. But we can test and measure natural processes.

Which should we believe? The evidence based theory or the faith based(non evidence) theory?

If we believe the faith based theory, then what's stopping you from believing all the other theories that have no evidence?

Once upon a time there was a naturalist named Darwin who exponent the theory of evolution and only the very every simple minded believe in this faults science, Darwin knew if you call it a science it must be true. So the simpleton believe with blind faith and never question it .

gopher_the_throat

Sep 8, 2015

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#667

I don't understand Wagnerian opera but it sure is loud.

17rileyc

Sep 8, 2015

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#668

gopher_the_throat wrote:

I don't understand Wagnerian opera but it sure is loud.

I don't understand anything...

yureesystem

Sep 8, 2015

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#669

17 hours ago · Quote · #913

17rileyc wrote:

alex-rodriguez wrote:

17rileyc

Quote mining is dishonest. You leave out the rest of it. Provide a link so we know what you're lying about. The link should include the paragraph that follows what you copy and pasted from a dishonest bible website.

Without a link from a real science website I can correctly assume you're a liar. You might even be lying about what you dishonestly quote mined. Mr. Darwin was totally behind his discoveries. And the scientific progress since Darwin has been thousands of times greater than what Darwin discovered.

If you copy and paste stuff from professional liars that makes you a liar. The problem with being a liar is everyone knows you're a liar.

By the way this is the 21st century. Why are you quoting a 19th century scientist? Do you think there's been zero scientific progress the past 200 years?

Try to be current, and try to not be dishonest.

Also, it wouldn't kill you to educate yourself instead of making a fool out of yourself.

Evolution is the strongest fact of science supported by thousands of powerful evidences from DNA sequencing.

But if you want to be equal to a flat-earther you go ahead and do that. Just don't complain when people point at you and laugh.

By the way the eye thing. What you dishonestly left out was Darwin's explanation for how the eye evolved.

One more time - stop being a liar.

Wow, seriously? Not every fact that you don't approve of is false. If you call me a liar, then you are calling Darwin himself--the very man who came up with the theory you are defending-- a liar as well, which pretty much renders your argument illogical. As to why I am quoting a 19th century scientist: like I said, he came up with the theory of evolution. You calling me out for that would be like if pointed out something contradictory about Jesus and me telling you to stop using outdated information. And evolution is definitely not the strongest fact of science. In fact, it is one of the most controversial facts of science.

Alex is pure entertainment! lol He just call Darwin a liar, if Darwin is a liar and his theory in evolution is a lied! But alex persist in believing a lie, Darwin doubted his theory, he knew there was NO evidence in fossil records and a person continues to believe in a lie, that makes him a deceived simpleton.

17rileyc just won the debate. He brought facts and you just repeated lies from sources that needed your support and belief, so they can fund evolution faulty theory. It all about money. $$$$$$

yureesystem

Sep 8, 2015

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#670

alex-rodriguezwrote:

17rileyc wrote:

Actually, most Christians believe that magic is a construct of the Devil.

Actually when Christians deny they believe in magic they are lying to everyone including themselves. God make people out of nothing. That's one heck of a magic trick. It's pointless and dishonest to deny it.

alex, you are so hilaious! lol Stop reading comics books, it might be entertainment but it doesn't give you really knowledge. It is obvious you did not read Origin of Species, Darwin had doubts in his theory. I will like to say you are intellectual dishonest but that will give you credit for being intelligent; you are just totally deceived and gullible.

yureesystem

Sep 8, 2015

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#671

drpsholder

Rosheen-Dove wrote:

do atheists not realize how dumb it is to totally dismiss something they have failed to discover with their precious science ? go Lola! kick ass and bust them heads!

Actually, you are wrong, but I don't expect you to understand. In fact, you CANT understand no matter how hard you try.

You see, the reason we can logically dismiss something that we have failed to discover is because...............well, we haven't discovered it yet and there is no way to know anything about something you have never discovered, tested, measured, weighed, etc.

Now, the question remains if you can see where and how you are wrong. My guess is that you can't, but let's see. LOL

Lol So you can measure, weight,test and observe evolution, yeah, right! There is a big problem with evolution, there is absolutely no evidences, not one; if you count a few illustrations has facts.

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#672

yureesystem wrote:

rpsholder wrote:

gopher_the_throat wrote:

Stephanson - I lean toward the argument that the creator(s) we are talking about is/are not composed of of matter, electrons, neutrons, protons and other things with mass that interact with each other using gravitation, electric charge or weak and strong nuclear energy. We are talking about the creation of the material world. Primitive minds thought of this creation as magic and simply think iof that creator as "the Eternal". In modern times we have caught a glimpse of how this was done without magic. The subset of the material universe resulted in a laboratory of the Master Scientist(s). The Masters do not require a creator.

Yes, we learned that it happens naturally. There is not one shread of evidence for anything supernatural.

We have yet to test it, measure it, etc. But we can test and measure natural processes.

Which should we believe? The evidence based theory or the faith based(non evidence) theory?

If we believe the faith based theory, then what's stopping you from believing all the other theories that have no evidence?

Once upon a time there was a naturalist named Darwin who exponent the theory of evolution and only the very every simple minded believe in this faults science, Darwin knew if you call it a science it must be true. So the simpleton believe with blind faith and never question it .

There is no evidence of anything supernatural. Who knows why you CANT understand that? LOL

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#673

yureesystem wrote:

drpsholder

Rosheen-Dove wrote:

do atheists not realize how dumb it is to totally dismiss something they have failed to discover with their precious science ? go Lola! kick ass and bust them heads!

Actually, you are wrong, but I don't expect you to understand. In fact, you CANT understand no matter how hard you try.

You see, the reason we can logically dismiss something that we have failed to discover is because...............well, we haven't discovered it yet and there is no way to know anything about something you have never discovered, tested, measured, weighed, etc.

Now, the question remains if you can see where and how you are wrong. My guess is that you can't, but let's see. LOL

Lol So you can measure, weight,test and observe evolution, yeah, right! There is a big problem with evolution, there is absolutely no evidences, not one; if you count a few illustrations has facts.

We can measure fossils! DOH! WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So again, just more proof of how wrong you are and since you will never be able to believe it, I question your intelligence. Thanks creationists! LOL

You are the funniest person on this thread! Please don't run away. We need you to say more stupid things! WHAHAHAHAHA

Americu

Sep 8, 2015

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#674

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

yureesystem

Sep 8, 2015

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#675

A Case For God!

First: God always existed and His evidences is His creation.

Second: Everything is made according to its kind. That means for the very simple minded, you cannot have a dog and a cat have offsprings, the evolutionist wish for it but scientifically it is not possible.

Third: God made Human being in HIs image. We are superior to animals and have complete dominion over them. Evolutionists will prefer to be a lower form of life, well that is on them.

Fourth: God made a distinction on gender male and female. Evolutionist wants you to think that was random, yeah, right!

Fifth: God give the breath of life to all humans, we take our first breath and we exhale our last breath when we died.

Sixth: Death has to have a meaning, to just died and cease to existed is completely illogical. If death has no meaning, someone like Hitler if he just died and not pay for his crimes to humanity, there will be no justiced.

Seventh: We have four seasons fall, winter, spring and summer. We days and nights, dark and light, the sun and the moon, we sleep and dream, all these things need a explanation if God did not created these things.

GabrieleMiceli

Sep 8, 2015

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#676

drpsholder wrote:

GabrieleMiceli wrote:

God is a miracle. People should rejoy that there is a God that loves us. Instead people are angry, they dont want this God. This i will never understand.

You are sooooooo right. I just don't understand why so many people are angry at Santa Claus either. What did he ever do to you?

Nobody wants this Santa claus, they all hate him for some reason.

Any time I provide evidence of Santa(presents under my tree), people get very angry at me and at Santa for some reason. They try telling me that presents under a tree doesnt mean that Santa exists, but I know they are only hateful people who only want to deny the truth.

sounds about right, eh?

The existence of God is a mistery. I understand people like you that think that God doesn't exist. But i would like that you pose a question to yourself: would i be happy if Jesus is really God? If you answer yes in your heart to this question then start to look for him. You ll find plenty of evidence :)

Americu

Sep 8, 2015

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#677

I wonder what God does in his/her spare time ?

GabrieleMiceli

Sep 8, 2015

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#678

Ah, okay. How can we trust that these men did not make it all up?

The 12 disciples of Jesus tell us a story where they appear ignorant, blind to many things etc etc

Generally people make up a lie to appear more than they are not less.

And why would 11 of them ( the other is Judas) die for this lie that only brings honor to another man?

yureesystem

Sep 8, 2015

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#679

25 Famous Scientists Who Believed in God

By Scientist

So how did the universe begin? How did life arise on Earth? These have been mankind’s most important questions through the ages. In the last century, we have learned more about science and the creation of the universe, than everything that was known before the twentieth century. What is more notable, the last decade has opened new discoveries leading to new theories that give us unique hypotheses about the presence of God and the nature of the universe.

Today’s article will discuss some of the most famous scientists in history who believed in God.

1) Albert Einstein

2) Arthur Compton

3) Ernst Haeckl

4) Blaise Pascal

5) Erwin Schrodinger

6) Francis Bacon

7) Francis Collins

8)Galileo Galilei

9) Gottfried Leibniz

10) Guglielmo Marcroni

11) Isaac Newton

12) James Clerk Maxwell

13) Johannes Kepler

14) John Eccles

15) Louis Pasteur

16) Max Planck

17) Micheal Faraday

18) Nicholas Copernicus

19) Rene Descartes

20) Robert Boyle

21) Robert A. Millikan

22) Werner Heisenberg

23) William T. Kelvin

24) William Harvey

25) Socretes

drpsholder

Sep 8, 2015

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#680

yureesystem wrote:

A Case For God!

First: God always existed and His evidences is His creation.

Second: Everything is made according to its kind. That means for the very simple minded, you cannot have a dog and a cat have offsprings, the evolutionist wish for it but scientifically it is not possible.

Third: God made Human being in HIs image. We are superior to animals and have complete dominion over them. Evolutionists will prefer to be a lower form of life, well that is on them.

Fourth: God made a distinction on gender male and female. Evolutionist wants you to think that was random, yeah, right!

Fifth: God give the breath of life to all humans, we take our first breath and we exhale our last breath when we died.

Sixth: Death has to have a meaning, to just died and cease to existed is completely illogical. If death has no meaning, someone like Hitler if he just died and not pay for his crimes to humanity, there will be no justiced.

Seventh: We have four seasons fall, winter, spring and summer. We days and nights, dark and light, the sun and the moon, we sleep and dream, all these things need a explanation if God did not created these things.

1. Where's your evidence that you tested to show that god always existed?

2. Where's your evidence that this doesn't happen naturally?

3. Where's your evidence?

4. where's your evidence?

5. Where's your evidence?

6. Where's your evidence that death has to have meaning?

7. Even if we can't explain those things........it doesn't mean you can say that god created them.

WOW, did you go to school? I hope you did not pay! LOL