Capa....that makes me laff....TY ! 
If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up
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Sep 10, 2015
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#903
Dear Colin,
I have spent quite alotta time (I'll be 40 on Halloween) studying the natural sciences. I have come to realize that I, most likely, will not get any answers to my questions. I also sense that the atheist believes that one day we may....just not in our life.
You see ?....we both believe in something.
....and some creationists, like myself, endorse the natural sciences. I luv the study of them !
L
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(S2 #1367) The universe can be explianed with out G-D.
No it can't....and you know it. The Universe cannot be explained by science....and it won't in our lifetime's either.
You need to stop furthering this lie to yourself. It's not good 4you.
Yes it can. There is no supernatural necessary since it happened naturally. No God needed.
Besides, God is just inserted into things that we do not know.
We used to think praying to the gods would bring a good harvest. We no longer do that for good reason.
alex-rodriguez wrote:
Is there a magical being with a magic wand hiding in some other galaxy?
Duh, duh, I don't know, duh.
Seems as though you are afraid to admit things that are unknown.
Or tell me how you prove something doesn't exist? If I claim that unicorns exist and you claim to KNOW there are none...........how did you go about doing that??? LOL
let's hear it.
Sep 10, 2015
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#906
(#1391) Yes it can.
Then why don't you go ahead & tell us all you know about the Arrow of Time. And while you're at it ?....tell us how matter was created (natural science says "matter can neither be created nor destroyed"). And don't forget to tell us how life first formed (& reproduced !)....you know, stuff like that.
I think you're way over your head there Dr. PreSheepskin Holder. You keep believing that the natural sciences created everything....see how you're forced to believe in something ? 'Cuz you won't have any answers when your arrow of time ticks its final tock. So cock-a-doodle-doo to you !....
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The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(#1391) Yes it can.
Then why don't you go ahead & tell us all you know about the Arrow of Time. And while you're at it ?....tell us how matter was created (natural science says "matter can neither be created nor destroyed"). And don't forget to tell us how life first formed (& reproduced !)....you know, stuff like that.
I think you're way over your head there Dr. PreSheepskin Holder. You keep believing that the natural sciences created everything....see how you're forced to believe in something ? 'Cuz you won't have any answers when your arrow of time ticks its final tock. So cock-a-doodle-doo to you !........
Sure, as soons as you tell us why we don't pray to the gods for a good harvest. Did we learn that those things happen naturally or did we learn that harvests are solely due to appeasing the gods?
God is or is not needed for understanding how harvests work?
God is not needed to undestand/describe reality.
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(#1391) Yes it can.
Then why don't you go ahead & tell us all you know about the Arrow of Time. And while you're at it ?....tell us how matter was created (natural science says "matter can neither be created nor destroyed"). And don't forget to tell us how life first formed (& reproduced !)....you know, stuff like that.
I think you're way over your head there Dr. PreSheepskin Holder. You keep believing that the natural sciences created everything....see how you're forced to believe in something ? 'Cuz you won't have any answers when your arrow of time ticks its final tock. So cock-a-doodle-doo to you !........
Well, we have no evidence that anything else did. We keep asking for your evidence and for some very strange reason you will not provide it. Strange, huh Ghosted Lolita? See? I can play the "calling people names" too. Its so much fun! Im not sure it will accomplish anything, but Im willing to play your game for entertainment purposes.
So why should I believe that something other than a natural processes created this earth/universe............when there is no evidence to support such a claim? LMAO!
Forced to believe in something? HUH? When did I ever claim that I don't beleive in something? WOW, you guys are hilarious and you don't even know it........hence the comedy! LMAO!
Notice that I do not believe that I will get punished for changing my beliefs, but religious people do. So, I wonder why they are not able to change their beliefs? FEAR or some other reason?
Sep 10, 2015
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#909
(#1391) Yes it can.
Well, then just tell us all here how the Universe works there Dr.....we're waiting.
(....don't hold your anticipation anyone. This person doesn't have any answers....)
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(#1391) Yes it can.
Well, then just tell us all here how the Universe works there Dr.....we're waiting.
(....don't hold your anticipation anyone. This person doesn't have any answers....)
Your challenge seems just a little unfair Lola! You can happily sit there and say "God did it" which at least has the virtue of simplicity if not accuracy, whilst you ask drpsholder to explain a mass of science off the top of his head in a chess.com strand. I'm reading a book called "The Road to Reality: A complete guide to the physical universe" by the mathematican and Hawking collaborator, Roger Penrose (the brother of former British Chess Champion, Jonathan Penrose, by the way). The book is nearly 1000 pages long and only scratches the surface! The word "God" does not appear anywhere mainly because it has no explanatory function: everything works just fine without a supernatural agent. So the onus is on you to prove the existence of your deity as he, she or it appears to have no impact whatsover on the universe.
Burden of proof...
The absence of proof that god doesn't exist isn't a proof that he exists.
Sep 10, 2015
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#912
(S2 #1398) Let me explain just because you small feeble brain can not comprehend dos not mean G-D did it
Well, you can't comprehend how nature did it....now can you. And stop trying to hide how mystified you are of the Universe. I see right thru that S2.
Sep 10, 2015
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#913
Colin20G wrote:
Burden of proof...
The absence of proof that god doesn't exist isn't a proof that he exists.
Would you like to have celestial tea with Bertrand Russell ?....'cuz we can go there.
Sep 10, 2015
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#914
Colin20G wrote:
Burden of proof...
The absence of proof that god doesn't exist isn't a proof that he exists.
....and the absence of proof that the Universe designed itself is like sprinkling unicorn horn dust all over the Scientific Method....so there.
Stephenson2 wrote:
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(A-Rod #1330) You are not my boss. I do not work for you. So stop pretending you can censor people.
Sounds like you have an authoritative issue w/ god. Maybe you've finally come to realize that life is a lose-lose trap for the atheist. And whether you believe in a god or not ?....you are a slave.
May I suggest some of Pascal's Wager ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
Hope this helps hon....
Pascal Wagered and lost he is dead
All people die. It is in no way a barometer of success. It rains on the just and the unjust alike. I have not responded to any of your lengthy post S2 because you already know all my answers & you have no answers for them. So, you will invoke the fact that you are educated & I am not, even though we have read then same material. Education does not make you smart. Education does not make you make rightouess choices. What does it gaineth a man to gain the entire world and lose his very soul?
alex-rodriguez wrote:
The fossil record that describes the transition from land animals to whales is complete. It shows a gradual shrinkage of the legs which are no longer necessary. It shows that ancestors of whales used to come back on land for the birth of baby whales. The fossil record shows the entire history of whale evolution, and it's all confirmed by DNA sequencing.
And like Raspberry pointed out, those useless leg bones are often found in modern whales completely separated from the rest of the skeleton.
The science deniers have no idea how much science they have to throw out so they can have their childish Magic Man fantasy.
translation: We have made observations that have turned into assumptions based on what we think we know. If we're found wrong we will say its a process & we're still looking. Either way we will say we told you so!
Sep 10, 2015
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#917
Well, the title of a book called "A Complete Guide to the Physical Universe" should tell you right there you should be completely suspect down to a grain of sand five minutes away from here.
I suppose they are gonna tell us exactly how everything works....and you're gonna believe it ! Think A61....THINK !
You go right ahead and give them your $ in hopes to find an answer to what's mystifying you. And don't forget to snicker at all the wild-haired speculative "what-if's".
YKW ?....it sounds to me as though you have neither a deity nor any answers about our physical universe. I wouldn't wanna be you 'cuz you're trapped in a lose-lose situation. You know the way out, but I don't sense your emotions are mature enuf (ego) to reach for the key.
drpsholder wrote:
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(S2 #1367) The universe can be explianed with out G-D.
No it can't....and you know it. The Universe cannot be explained by science....and it won't in our lifetime's either.
You need to stop furthering this lie to yourself. It's not good 4you.
Yes it can. There is no supernatural necessary since it happened naturally. No God needed.
Please explain to me how the Universe happened naturally. then reproduce it for me because if something happens naturally, that is the way it is suppose to happen without coersion. There for the laws of its reproduction should apply & show a reproducted example no matter who wields them?
Sep 10, 2015
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#919
Much of the - natural - history of the universe has already been mapped, using nothing more than what we already know about mathematics. What remains unexplained is a tiny instant after big bang, when matter was still far too hot and dense to replicate (although this too is being worked on, at places like CERN etc).
It seems to me that tiny instant is an awfully small corner to be backed into...
chessterd5 wrote:
drpsholder wrote:
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(S2 #1367) The universe can be explianed with out G-D.
No it can't....and you know it. The Universe cannot be explained by science....and it won't in our lifetime's either.
You need to stop furthering this lie to yourself. It's not good 4you.
Yes it can. There is no supernatural necessary since it happened naturally. No God needed.
Please explain to me how the Universe happened naturally. then reproduce it for me because if something happens naturally, that is the way it is suppose to happen without coersion. There for the laws of its reproduction should apply & show a reproducted example no matter who wields them?
-dont have to........nature is the only way to explain it. Remember we dont do rain dances anymore because supernatural doesnt work.
Prove there is a supernatural. I will be waiiting. Lmao
(S2 #1367) The universe can be explianed with out G-D.
No it can't....and you know it. The Universe cannot be explained by science....and it won't in our lifetime's either.
You need to stop furthering this lie to yourself. It's not good 4you.
We shall delicately disagree on this point...