If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up

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Raspberry_Yoghurt
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Out to Blowgurt:

There are countless stories of deathbed repentance. So don't even....

made up or real?

sorry but is difficult to discius with a "camp" of people that use making up things as a routine debate strategy.

Raspberry_Yoghurt
alex-rodriguez wrote:

"Sorry to say, it seems to me creationists simply arent smart or educated enough to understand what evolution theory is, this problem is maybe bigger problem than any other thing."

That has obviously been the problem for a long time. The keyword is "uneducated". They know nothing about the science they don't like and they go out of their way to continue to know nothing.

Religious brainwashing (aka child abuse) sucked out all the curiosity that every child naturally has. The victims are taught to never wonder why. When the victims grow up that lack of curiosity is still a problem. They never wonder why every biologist in the world loves evolution.

Today we have the internet. Anyone can use Google and instantly get their questions answered in great detail. But the victims of religious brainwashing never ask questions. They think they know everything there is to know. They think the solution to every problem is god-did-it. The brainwashers (aka child abusers) have destroyed these children's brains. They belong in prison for it.

It's CRAZY!

You can see also many of them use the same 4-5 baic misunderstandings. Like big bang is evolution, no missing links, Darwin is still "the man to get" and so on.

I guess they get this from religios books or something? Like they are sitting in a bubble of dumbness repeating the same 5 misunderstandings to each other and nobody goes out of the bubble to check anything, or even read 10 pages of a biology book.

You could even just take some evolution books and see if they mention big bang. You dont even have to actually read it, not even the 10 pages that is probably already to difficult for them. Since they don't mention big bang, in no books, ever, you should be able to figure out it isnt part of evolution.

gopher_the_throat
Stephenson2 wrote:

You know Darwin explained in his memwar he trip from beleiver to non-beleiver. (he was raised christian and lost his faith as a result of learning to see the world as it truely is.

He never went back to superstition

Good for Pope Darwin and the Church of Aetheism. I hope he rests in peace. May his blessings be passed along thru Saint Dawkins.

Raspberry_Yoghurt
Stephenson2 wrote:

You know Darwin explained in his memwar he trip from beleiver to non-beleiver. (he was raised christian and lost his faith as a result of learning to see the world as it truely is.

He never went back to superstition

It doesnt matter anyway. He could have been raging about vooodoo or santa claas or Zeus on his deathbed, doesnt change anything lol.

The_Ghostess_Lola

One of the hallmarks of most atheists is their inability to integrate their emotions with their own existence. The result is that they gauge all their feelings as it relates directly to "science". This acute form of numb simplification and science worship is done in full conscious and rarely found in adolescents.

This "trapping" of their feelings, motivated by the fallacy that "science holds all answers" approach has shown in research to be quite unhealthy....laboratorily and in general practice.

The underpinning motivation seems to be an extreme discomfort w/ confronting themselves. There are many reasons for this lopsided repression. But nearly all reasons lead back to some form of abuse and/or an inability to "handle" the daily common swings of human emotion. This inability nearly always develops into a form of mental disorder.

The final result is someone with an Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ) somewhere south of clinically retarded.

Topically well within this thread....and I hope this helps the atheist megaminority better understand themselves....'cuz you need it. You can thank me following any clinical assessment you choose to pursue.

Ciao4Now....Lola

FRENCHBASHER

just to help : 

Pascal, philosoph, mathematician, genius, said 15xx :

" better to believe : if it is truth, Creator will be ok with you.

If it is not, you're not being hurted by someone who doens't exist."

Btw Pascal didn' know : duck or egg? who was fisrt ?

The_Ghostess_Lola

S2....it's a wonderful thing to see that you are quoting The Bible to your benefit. Maybe The Good Word is finally starting to sink into that  of yours....Smile....

Raspberry_Yoghurt
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

One of the hallmarks of most atheists is their inability to integrate their emotions with their own existence. The result is that they gauge all their feelings as it relates directly to "science". This acute form of numb simplification and science worship is done in full conscious and rarely found in adolescents.

This "trapping" of their feelings, motivated by the fallacy that "science holds all answers" approach has shown in research to be quite unhealthy....laboratorily and in general practice.

The underpinning motivation seems to be an extreme discomfort w/ confronting themselves. There are many reasons for this lopsided repression. But nearly all reasons lead back to some form of abuse and/or an inability to "handle" the daily common swings of human emotion. This inability nearly always develops into a form of mental disorder.

The final result is someone with an Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ) somewhere south of clinically retarded.

Topically well within this thread....and I hope this helps the atheist megaminority better understand themselves....'cuz you need it. You can thank me following any clinical assessment you choose to pursue.

Ciao4Now....Lola

Science has never ever, in any shape or form, claimed that it holds the answers to all questions.

This is again something purely made up.

Approach one: Read some of Darwin's stuff (or Einstein's or whomever), or get other information about him, and find out what they actually said themselves

Apporach two: Invent and fabricate what they said and then discuss on the basis on whatever you yourself invented that science says it is.

It is very ironic, your delusion that you think science says it knows "all the answers". Since it says the exact opposite.

It is like if you are discussing vegetarianism, while stubbornly believing vegetarianism is all about eating meat, meat and nothing but meat. And refusing to google "what is vegetarianism" and even stubbornly persisting when vegetarians tell you, no they dont eat meat.

Is just so low level it is ridicioulous.

Raspberry_Yoghurt

Scientist: Every physicist today is immediately ready to say, okay, all of our past knowledge about the world is wrong.

https://edge.org/conversation/a-philosophy-of-physics

Lola: Science says it holds all the answers.

Anobody note a difference in the real view and the made-up view?

The_Ghostess_Lola

Kefir (you're thicker than yoghurt), you're hoping & waiting for science to give you all the answers as to why you're here. It's way-way simpler than that. And your problem is that you're thinking too much.

Ease up on yourself !....you'll be better off in the long run....trust me.

drpsholder

Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Scientist: Every physicist today is immediately ready to say, okay, all of our past knowledge about the world is wrong.

https://edge.org/conversation/a-philosophy-of-physics

Lola: Science says it holds all the answers.

Anobody note a difference in the real view and the made-up view?

-dont show that to Lola.......she will not be able to understand despite the fact that its two sentences.

Watch!! Lets take bets on whether she can understand. My money is on........she cant, no matter how hard she tries. Lmao

drpsholder

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Kefir, you're hoping & waiting for science to give you all the answers as to why you're here. It's way-way simpler than that. And your problem is that you're thinking too much.

Ease up on yourself !....you'll be better off in the long run....trust me.

BOO!!!!

I really like your way of debating. I dont have to think or add anything of value. I can do it with 1 brain cell.

Ahhhhhhh, now we see why you do it. Whahahhhaha

FRENCHBASHER

yes it was late birth control with artisanal methods in those old days, who knows ?

iluvzmituna

Stephenson2, are you under the impression that anyone with religious beliefs go according to your cut and paste ?

I think you are just using this thread to be a bully.

Good reason these discussions are meant to be confined to the Open Discussion group.

Lets see how different these beliefs are. One person believes in a God, without needing evidence. The other believes there there is no God, unless given supporting evidence by those that do believe. Hence they are merely setting themselves up in opposition and will argue the hind legs off a donkey for as long as they are happy to. You pays your money and takes your choice.

The_Ghostess_Lola

(Tuna #1546) The other believes there there is no God, unless given supporting evidence by those that do believe.

And it gets better than that Tuna. The atheist has zero supporting evidence as to where matter and energy even came from or that time didn't have a starting point. They can't even begin to comprehend it ! And I happen to find that totally comical ! 

And it's a beautiful thing....to watch them scratch their heads from all this mystery. All they can do is shrug and say "Duh....I dunno !". All of the atheist-scientists are caught in this existential trap....and they have been for 5000 years. Do you ever wonder who's behind it all ?....I luv it !

drpsholder
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

(Tuna #1546) The other believes there there is no God, unless given supporting evidence by those that do believe.

And it gets better than that Tuna. The atheist has zero supporting evidence as to where matter and energy even came from or that time didn't have a starting point. They can't even begin to comprehend it ! And I happen to find that totally comical ! 

And it's a beautiful thing....to watch them scratch their heads from all this mystery. All they can do is shrug and say "Duh....I dunno !". All of the atheist-scientists are caught in this existential trap....and they have been for 5000 years. Do you ever wonder who's behind it all ?....I luv it !

WHAHAHA!  We don't have to have evidence as to where matter and energy came from.

there is no evidence for anything supernatural, but plenty of evidence for natural things.

Believing it happened supernaturally is the same as believing it happened via unicorns!  I know, I know..........very silly beliefs to say the least! WHAHAHAHAHAHA

drpsholder
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

(Tuna #1546) The other believes there there is no God, unless given supporting evidence by those that do believe.

And it gets better than that Tuna. The atheist has zero supporting evidence as to where matter and energy even came from or that time didn't have a starting point. They can't even begin to comprehend it ! And I happen to find that totally comical ! 

And it's a beautiful thing....to watch them scratch their heads from all this mystery. All they can do is shrug and say "Duh....I dunno !". All of the atheist-scientists are caught in this existential trap....and they have been for 5000 years. Do you ever wonder who's behind it all ?....I luv it !

i can tell that honesty isn't your strong point.  When we don't know something, we are happy to admit it.........since it doesn't destroy our worldview.

but when religious people don't know something, they lie and claim it was Gawd who done it............but sadly there is no evidence of anything supernatural, so their beliefs look pretty stupid to the smart people.

And when we point this out to them, they are bewildered. Confused. Stone faced. They just can't grasp very simple logic. Either they don't WANT to understand or simply CANT.

I hope they prove that they don't WANT to understand because the other option doesn't make them look smart. But they are not willing to prove its because they dont WANT to...............which leads us to believe its because they dont have the mental capacity or ability to do so.  its the very evidence we need to question their intelligence!

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

iluvzmituna

What do you think, drpsholder ? does a God exist ? trying to be kinda adult here :)

iluvzmituna

haha, right on cue! So mr Stephenson! You'd like some evidence that a God exists then ?

And what pray you counts as evidence you are willing to accept ?

btw I am not a Christian and nowhere have I said that.

iluvzmituna

Then you are prejudiced in thinking if a God exists, it reflects light or emits light, basically using physics ideas ?

Why would that need be a characteristic ?

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