If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up

Sorry that you have no evidence for your god!  I wonder what on the face of the earth would keep you believing in stupid things?

FEAR? FEAR of your very own personal god?  Ahhhhh, no wonder you CANT understand.

If its not fear, then it must be stupidity that keeping you from learing. Which is it? WHAHAHAHAA

Evolution is science. SEE?  Just when I thought you guys couldn't say dumber things..........you step up to the plate and prove me wrong, which causes me to change my beliefs.

I used to think you were sane, but based on the evidence that you supply, I now believe differently. You are insane!

Thanks for saying stupid things and entertaining us! We couldn't laugh without you! WHAHAHAHAHAA

WHOA!  Careful, it appears that you are learning..........but I reserve the right to not change my belief until more evidence is provided.

You are so correct, its called a theory because theories are explanations of natural phenomenon. So yes, its called a theory because it explains the evidence that we have before us.

Kudos Lola! It appears as though you are learning. Careful though, don't want your god to see you learn something new...........he might punish you in hell for eternity.  Be afraid, be very afraid.

WHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dont have to!  How many times do we have to tell you?  Or should we just give up because your intelligence is too low for you to understand?

What's the reason for not being able to understand very simple logic? Stupidity or some other reason? 

We couldn't explain harvests. People used to pray to the gods for a good harvest.  Well, that turned out wrong, huh? WHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

So you see?  Nah, you can't. You don't have the mental capabilities to understand. We know this to be true because you have yet to understand.  Simple huh? WHAHAHAHAHA

So even the things we cant explain........don't have a supernatural cause. They have a natural cause.

So Gawd isn't needed at all. Sorry you just CANT comprehend simple logic and then you wonder why we laugh at you! WHAHAHAHAH

"So even the things we cant explain........don't have a supernatural cause. They have a natural cause."

What's your proof for that?

Many things are unexplained in science. It's foolish, unscientefic even, to write off things we don't understand yet as "supernatural bullshit" and say they don't exist.

" Sorry you just CANT comprehend simple logic and then you wonder why we laugh at you! WHAHAHAHAH"

Nice work attacking the person instead of the argument, btw.

1) The fossil record is incomplete. The Cambrian Explosion shows that there is doubt in reference to macro Evolution.

2) In veiwing amino acids, the idea that evolutionists believe that 20 individual amino acids formed themselves, arranged themselves, & replicated themselves to form all life as we know it without any help what so ever in a hostile enviroment stretching over a suggested 3.6 billion years seems highly illogical. Furthermore, the amino acids form from a primordial soup created by caustic reactions between unidentified cosmic "rain" and continual contact with the Earth's surface (a rock). This sheds doubt on micro evolution.

3) The fact that we cannot create & maintain a helpful mutation even in a laboritory Ansd then continue it into another species without inbreeding to keep the mutation "alive" creates doubt about adaptation of speices, wich is the only thing that Darwin really proved. Here's the bottom line a chicken is still a chicken.

My evidence for that is that we have no evidence of anything supernatural and I even provided an example of things once attributed to gods, but turned out to be due to natural causes..........harvests.

You are welcome to prove me wrong, if you like! If you can prove me wrong, I will change my beliefs.

SuperBlooper103 wrote:

"So even the things we cant explain........don't have a supernatural cause. They have a natural cause."

What's your proof for that?

Many things are unexplained in science. It's foolish, unscientefic even, to write off things we don't understand yet as "supernatural bullshit" and say they don't exist.

" Sorry you just CANT comprehend simple logic and then you wonder why we laugh at you! WHAHAHAHAH"

Nice work attacking the person instead of the argument, btw.

The goal of an argument is to win the argument,not the person.You guys are losing if you attack the person.It just shows that you don't have enough evidence in an argument and you are forced to resort to insulting the person.I'll leave this thread because subtheistism is not holding together too well and a schism is happening.I'll become theist because you don't have evidence to prove that science is true.You can become Buddhist if you want.(It's atheist.)

Except that I attacked the argument.........and even provided an example of my reasoning; ie. harvests.

And then I predicted that the christian/religious reader wouldn't be able to comprehend...........and you are the 1st piece of evidence that lends credibility to my prediction.

In other words, you are evidence that my prediction was spot on.

A few posts back I gave you a specific opportunity te explain in no uncertain terms the natural cause of things we do know and you wouldn't do it. Please do not ever express the idea that you are intelectually honest ever again regardless of what anyone else says. God bless you & have a good day.

I'm an atheist. Stop being so narrowminded to think that being non-Christian makes you smarter than Christians.

Giving one piece of evidence for a theory proves nothing but giving just one piece of evidence against a theory disproves the theory.

Therefore, if you can not give a solid piece of evidence against the hypothesis "supernatural phenomona in the way that we understand them may well be real, but outside the limits of the current understanding of the universe" then you haven't disproven anything.

Remember harvests?  LOL  

In ancient times, I would not have been able to explain harvests.........but they turned out to be natural.

Right or wrong?????????

Well, since I dont think that being non christian makes me smarter than christians.........I wonder who is being narrowminded?

Just because something happened in the past doesn't imply that all things in the future will follow the same pattern.

Yesterday, I saw a person but it turned out to actually be a scarecrow. Therefore, all the people you saw yesterday were actually scarecrows.

Do you see how that argument doesn't work?

You literally said

"I predicted that the christian/religious reader wouldn't be able to comprehend..........."

as if somehow being a christian means you can't understand something as well as other people.

I didn't claim that all things in the future will follow the same pattern. If something is ever found to be caused by a god, then I will believe so.

But until then, everything that we didn't know and have learned to know about..........was caused by natural causes.

Not 1 thing has turned out to be caused by supernatural means.........unless you have some examples you would like to share?

We have no reason to believe it will be any different, but if it is, then I will change my beliefs.

Even if that's true, it doesn't mean that the theory is not unscientefic in nature.

Also, even if you prove evolution, God may have had a hand in abiogenesis.

Maybe they CAN understand, but just too scared to do so.

In other words, it may not be due to lack of intelligence, it could be due to fear. And I have asked them to prove which one it is...........and they avoid it like the plague.

Again, who is being narrowminded here?