I'm not so sure we evolved from apes.

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I think we have a lot in common with apes but they do share some traits we don't. I mean, if we evolved from the same animals as monkeys why haven't monkeys evolved? Some people say we really evolved from birds. I know that's insane thinking that birds and humans are almost opposite. Many we evolved from an extinct species? Does anyone agree or disagree?
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I don't think we evolved from apes because if we did why aren't there people still evolving

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Modern science does NOT say we evolved from apes, but that humans and apes share a common ancestor. It's a common misunderstanding. To use an analogy, think of it in terms of cousins, and great-great-great....grandparents in human families. Modern science doesn't say we came from apes. Apes are not the "great-great-great... grandparents" at the base of the human family tree, so to speak, but more like the "cousins" of humans who are related by way of an earlier ancestor. Hope that helps. In short, did we evolve from apes? No and evolutionary biologists don't believe we did either.

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We evolved from Apicus Colubronzonicus

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I'm a hyperintelligent neanderthal

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Thebackwardpawn wrote:

Modern science does NOT say we evolved from apes, but that humans and apes share a common ancestor. It's a common misunderstanding. To use an analogy, think of it in terms of cousins, and great-great-great....grandparents in human families. Modern science doesn't say we came from apes. Apes are not the "great-great-great... grandparents" at the base of the human family tree, so to speak, but more like the "cousins" of humans who are related by way of an earlier ancestor. Hope that helps. In short, did we evolve from apes? No and evolutionary biologists don't believe we did either.

Do what did they call the things we did evolve from, huh? I'm pretty sure it was a certain type of ape, if I'm not mistaken. Please clear up my misunderstanding.

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Cubronzo wrote:

We evolved from Apicus Colubronzonicus

Didn't you say it was "Apicus Colubronzonicus"?

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Cubronzo wrote:

We evolved from Apicus Colubronzonicus

Didn't you say it was "Apicus Colubronzonicus"?

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Cubronzo wrote:

Thebackwardpawn wrote:

Modern science does NOT say we evolved from apes, but that humans and apes share a common ancestor. It's a common misunderstanding. To use an analogy, think of it in terms of cousins, and great-great-great....grandparents in human families. Modern science doesn't say we came from apes. Apes are not the "great-great-great... grandparents" at the base of the human family tree, so to speak, but more like the "cousins" of humans who are related by way of an earlier ancestor. Hope that helps. In short, did we evolve from apes? No and evolutionary biologists don't believe we did either.

Do what did they call the things we did evolve from, huh? I'm pretty sure it was a certain type of ape, if I'm not mistaken. Please clear up my misunderstanding.

You are correct that the ancestral form would have had more ape-like features than humans but would still be different from modern apes. https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/overview-of-hominin-evolution-89010983

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Cubronzo wrote:

Thebackwardpawn wrote:

Modern science does NOT say we evolved from apes, but that humans and apes share a common ancestor. It's a common misunderstanding. To use an analogy, think of it in terms of cousins, and great-great-great....grandparents in human families. Modern science doesn't say we came from apes. Apes are not the "great-great-great... grandparents" at the base of the human family tree, so to speak, but more like the "cousins" of humans who are related by way of an earlier ancestor. Hope that helps. In short, did we evolve from apes? No and evolutionary biologists don't believe we did either.

Do what did they call the things we did evolve from, huh? I'm pretty sure it was a certain type of ape, if I'm not mistaken. Please clear up my misunderstanding.

The question usually goes, "If humans evolved from apes then why do apes still exist today?" The answer is that no one believes we evolved from modern apes

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How does increase in complexity if genes shrink every mutation? Huh? Sorry, I didn't hear you.

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Cubronzo wrote:

How does increase in complexity if genes shrink every mutation? Huh? Sorry, I didn't hear you.

You didn't hear me cuz I haven't said anything yet

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As genes become less complex, species become more complex. Isn't that a contradiction? I thought you evolutionists were logical.

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I don't understand your question. What do you mean by the phrase "genes shrink every mutation"?

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You lose genes when you mutate. Molecules break down. Chromosomes shrink in size. How come we only have 1/20th the amount of genes as some pre-historic flower, but have all these complex organs?

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As genes become less complex, species become more complex. Isn't that a contradiction? I thought you evolutionists were logical.

We can dialogue but I don't do insults. So if you want to have a discussion, fine, but leave the insults at the door

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Uh huh and where do you get your morals from?

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You said you wanted a dialogue, so I give you one.

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Sorry, gtg.

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Cubronzo wrote:

You lose genes when you mutate. Molecules break down. Chromosomes shrink in size. How come we only have 1/20th the amount of genes as some pre-historic flower, but have all these complex organs?

Deletion is only one type of mutation. Not all mutations are deletions. Some are insertions/additions, sometimes genes get duplicated so you have more genetic material not less. When you speak of chromosome shrinking I believe you're thinking of telomere shortening which is something different and non-coding regions in DNA. More genetic material doesn't automatically = more complexity. There are also different types of genes. Regulatory genes have great importance in this regard and function like master switches. For example, a mutation in one type of regulatory gene in fruit flies can change the location of where the fruit fly's antenna or legs are.