Is it possible to prove anything?

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Iluvsmetuna

I think therefore I think I think.

johnny_BACON
trysts wrote:

You would have to agree upon an acceptable definition of "proof". Any infant can say "no" to anything;)

BURN

D_D_inactive
BartolomeusRex wrote:

I am thinking, therefore I exist.

but how can u prove your thinking?

Iluvsmetuna

have to agree with you on that one!

D_D_inactive

i know, and by the way there are 3 limitations to science

1.Science isn't 100% reliable

2.Must follow scientific method

3.Science cannot be proven

so there it is in the pudding

Iluvsmetuna

Bingo!!

trysts

Oh, so this is another anti-science thread. I see.

Iluvsmetuna

With the exception of Bunsen burners.

trysts

I don't understand the Bunsen burners reference, tuna?

Ronwald

Rene Descartes asked the same serious question, and his answer was (loosely) something like "I think I perceive all of these things, that I think are real, but I may be deceived.  Yet, whether I am deceived or not, I think.  So, I know that I think, and if I think, then 'I' must exist.  That is the famous, 'Cogito, ergo sum' or 'I think, therefore I am.'  The meaning is NOT that my thinking brings me into existance, but that my thinking proves to me that I do exist.  Descartes went on to argue that he could prove many other things, but philosophers accept his first step much more than his later steps.  The philosophy of only knowing for sure that 'I' exist is called solipcism.  

On the other hand, all mathematical proof and all scientific proof and disproof are based on fundamental assumptions called axioms.  Einstein came up with a new axiom that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.  He also used a new axiom that there is no such thing as 'spooky action at a distance.'  Quantum theorists don't necessarily agree with either, but they certainly dispute the second.  

johnny_BACON
TheGamecock wrote:

i know, and by the way there are 3 limitations to science

1.Science isn't 100% reliable

2.Must follow scientific method

3.Science cannot be proven

so there it is in the pudding

now this is about science ?

Iluvsmetuna

I tawt i taw puddytat, ipso facto ..... I did tawt a puddytat!!

Iluvsmetuna

Here is some good science trysts!

Cover one end of the meter ruler with foil to protect it from the Bunsen burner. Attach a few strands of steel wool to the end of the ruler. Balance the ruler on a knife edge or triangular block at the 50 cm mark. Weight the empty end with plasticine until this end is just down. Heat the wool over the flame for about a minute. The wool will glow. When placed on the triangular block, the ruler will tip in the wool until the wool side of the ruler is down. The formula is iron + oxygen = iron oxide.

zborg
Iluvsmetuna wrote:

With the exception of Bunsen burners.

Clearly those burners follow The Scientific Method.

So the call goes out for @Elroch to set this thread a-fire.  

P.S.  Isn't the proof of the pudding in the tasting ?  Yummy.

Iluvsmetuna

We will put a flame under his butt if he arrives with his banana-talk :)

trysts
Iluvsmetuna wrote:

Here is some good science trysts!

 

Cover one end of the meter ruler with foil to protect it from the Bunsen burner. Attach a few strands of steel wool to the end of the ruler. Balance the ruler on a knife edge or triangular block at the 50 cm mark. Weight the empty end with plasticine until this end is just down. Heat the wool over the flame for about a minute. The wool will glow. When placed on the triangular block, the ruler will tip in the wool until the wool side of the ruler is down. The formula is iron + oxygen = iron oxide.

Oh, I know what you meant in your other comment now:)

D_D_inactive

SO IS ANYONE GOING TO PROVE ANYTHING?

cause it looks like no one can

Iluvsmetuna

I can prove that 7 is my favorite number.

BartolomeusRex
TheGamecock wrote:
BartolomeusRex wrote:

I am thinking, therefore I exist.

but how can u prove your thinking?

Rene Descartes:

"While we thus reject all of which we can entertain the smallest doubt, and even imagine that it is false, we easily indeed suppose that there is neither God, nor sky, nor bodies, and that we ourselves even have neither hands nor feet, nor, finally, a body; but we cannot in the same way suppose that we are not while we doubt of the truth of these things; for there is a repugnance in conceiving that what thinks does not exist at the very time when it thinks. Accordingly, the knowledge, I think, therefore I am, is the first and most certain that occurs to one who philosophizes orderly."

D_D_inactive
Iluvsmetuna wrote:

I can prove that 7 is my favorite number.

but how?