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kaynight wrote:

Good to see gibberish excelling once more.

kaynight! You master of one-liners jokes Laughing You must be popular at the local pub.

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The unspoken reason, of those who deny their 'selfhood' and even, partial 'free will' have reached those conclusions. ..lol

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On the other hand - A select few of us, apparently 'thrive' on 'horseradish'..{only!} .. lol

 

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kaynight wrote:

Good to see gibberish excelling once more.

kaynight! You master of one-liners jokes  You must be popular at the local pub.

yes in north by north Caledonian northern Island , last pub, last stop before North pole, the place they'll send the Napoleon of black corrosive humour; when you manipulate acid, you get some on your shoes (Ghandi).

Teddy Roosevelt deserved some welcome and treatment (see above) to the uncurable disenchanted lonely sniper.

even Smiley people lost their smile, just saying; Laughing.

Back to the topic: Op is great, Teddy was a great State Man he invented Natural National Parks, vive THE THREAD TO BE.

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Hmm. Thanks guys I enjoyed that. You know when I'm not on a thread I read anyway.

And I get bored. I think no one is talking about anything I'm interested in.

Someone said that they were off topic earlier but I don't accept that.

The topic here is life which for me is anything that you can think. So just express yourself.
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Interesting idea why value happiness? The absence of happiness is pain. Don't we all want to avoid pain, pursue pleasure?

Sometimes I think that's why we do what we do. I think a lady once stated that's a fact on a thread of mine.
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Okay we've talked a little about things. I'd like to review what I know. I think that Troy came up with an interesting idea. That there could be a meaning within life that's an objective reality. Such as truth. I'd like to look at that actually. What is truth?
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Well for example it's true that rain falls on the earth. That's an absolute fact.

Let's take away all forms of consciousness now. Imagine what that would mean to that reality.

So no one would see or hear the rain. Touch of feel it. Smell the rain.
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It's hard to visualise but we can perhaps accept though that the energy that's rain would still exist.

That for me is truth. It's that energy is present in a particular form observing a particular law. It's nothing to do with consciousness.
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That's why when Troy says that the truth is ever changing that makes sense to me. Because energy is forever changing.
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Looking at the laws of nature. Forces and so on. Do these change?

Hawking said that within the multiverse there will be many universes without life at all.

In these universes gravity will be different along with other forces.

Perhaps it's not only energy that fluctuates but the laws of nature that affect energy.
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My own expectation is that nature. At least the laws of physics. Always has and always will exist.

We can talk about the universe beginning and ending but nature always was and always will be.
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I appreciate that's hard for the average person to grasp. We are so conditioned into thinking things begin and end.

But think outside of matter. Why should forces that exist apart from matter have a limited life span?

Why shouldn't there be a potential for something to have always been and always will be?
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But you know these natural forces create and destroy matter. Not only that they evolve it. And that my friends is the simple truth of life. In a nutshell.
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So in a way there is no death. If you think of life in terms of force the force always has and always will exist.
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We just want to own it. Why? Because of the survival instinct. But the truth is we are all interconnected with everything.

Sure we exist but absolutely and entirely as a part of nature only. Any ideas of individuality are false.
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Kay. What do you think?
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Tom, For your Own sake.. I wouldn't start believing & asserting, that 'Truth'..{esp. of the More important, morality kinds}, are 'ever changing'!?!

I mean, that it's theoratically possible, that one or more cultures, may one day recognize for instance, 'marriages' of let's say, 3 {or more}, people - But, {imho}, that doesn't make it, morally 'truthful'.. much less, advisable!

Same goes, for 'beastiality'..{as an extreme}.. Though, for that matter.. Due to our society's evolved, moral indifference.. Same gender 'marriage'.. {including 'marriage' ceremonies}, are Now, pretty much the norm.. At least, in portions, of the 'USA'.

 

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Meaning within life. What does that mean? What's meaning? I suppose we would think purpose.

I'm sure that at times the universe purposely does things.

I mean when a human being genetically engineers that's purposefully acting.

But the human's behaviour is a natural result of causality within nature.

The fact they might act with love is because they've naturally evolved to love.
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