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what would happen to me if i got sucked into a black hole, i had a dream about it a few days ago, would i get crushed?

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Dang lmao were you more referring to yourself what you shared to noodles, El?

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I would think were you to ever to change your username that Elego fits rather well.

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Noodles is absolutely correct stating the government’s intentions and doings are to dumbWAYdown society and those that acknowledge such to label them the crakerjacks, conspiracy theory nuttos, though GOD BLESS THEM TO GO AGAINST THE IDIOTS THAT WISH TO KEEP MAN CATTLE AND FK THEM.

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noodles2112 wrote:

... Like the V1/V2 rockets the Germans launched during WWII thanks to NASA/NAZI rocket scientist Werner Von Braun.

"I just send them UP, that's how we learn.

Where they come down?... that's not my concern."

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RoobieRoo wrote:

what would happen to me if i got sucked into a black hole, i had a dream about it a few days ago, would i get crushed?

Disaster is as certain as that a Flat Earther will never improve their understanding of the real world.

What happens to you as you fall in is greatly dependent on the size of the black hole. Small black holes have massive tidal sheers that rip anything apart. In larger ones this is not so.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification#Inside_or_outside_the_event_horizon

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    "Even Newton stated "his theory" of gravity could never be proven".                                                     Just jump from an airplane with no parachute......you'll prove it. 

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   What's new in Japanese cosmology?.....I'm glad you asked ronnie. wink                                                      https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/japanese-telescope-captures-image-mysterious-180332172.html

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Elroch - You appear to believe that so-called flat earthers received a much different "education" than yourself. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The ONLY difference is that they questioned their so-called "education". 

RonaldJosephCote - If gravity existed why is it so easy for smoke to escape its all powerful grasp or a little old helium balloon to ascend or even remain neutrally buoyant? 

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noodles2112 wrote:

RonaldJosephCote - If gravity existed why is it so easy for smoke to escape its all powerful grasp or a little old helium balloon to ascend or even remain neutrally buoyant? 

Because the gravity doesn't JUST pull on the smoke and on nothing else. It pulls on the smoke AND on all the rest of the air in the room. Since the rest of the air is cooler and denser than the smoke, gravity gets a better grip on it than it does on the smoke. The surrounding cool air goes down, squeezing the warm air (and the smoke) up.

Have you ever tried blowing up a balloon and then holding it underwater in the tub? It's very difficult to keep it down underwater, you will feel a LOT of force trying to push it upward to the surface. That's because gravity pulls on both the balloon and on the surrounding water, and the surrounding water is much denser than the balloon so it gets pulled much harder... forcing the balloon UP.

Your questions regarding smoke and helium balloons are answered by the same principle.

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noodles, the key to your beliefs is ignoring everything that proves them wrong.

Is the point that the horizon can be measured to be significantly below "horizontal" from the top of a mountain (or a high flying object) beyond you? 

How about the fact that the part of the celestial sphere visible from, say, Australia, is very different to that visible from, say, the US?  (Indeed the fact that the distribution of stars forms a sphere is itself entirely decisive).

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RonaldJosephCote wrote:

    "Even Newton stated "his theory" of gravity could never be proven".                                                     Just jump from an airplane with no parachute......you'll prove it. 

That would be a bit like the flat Earther who launched himself on a homemade rocket and the parachute deployed early so he demonstrated Newtonian physics all the way to the ground.

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blueemu - how does a balloon remain neutrally buoyant. Where is gravity? 

Elroch - Proving NASA never went to the moon is child's play yet you refuse to see it. Why?

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Elroch wrote:
RoobieRoo wrote:

what would happen to me if i got sucked into a black hole, i had a dream about it a few days ago, would i get crushed?

Disaster is as certain as that a Flat Earther will never improve their understanding of the real world.

What happens to you as you fall in is greatly dependent on the size of the black hole. Small black holes have massive tidal sheers that rip anything apart. In larger ones this is not so.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification#Inside_or_outside_the_event_horizon

why do things get crushed or ripped apart?  is it the sheer force of being pulled in?

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Its ok, i read the rest of the article, basically the force (gravity nearest the singularity (not sure what that means)) pulls and stretches your body so that you get compressed and elongated, like spaghetti.  Like getting sucked into a jet engine so fast that you stretch before you even hit the blades! A great pity that for i was hoping to come out the other side into a different dimension, alive!

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RoobieRoo wrote:

why do things get crushed or ripped apart?  is it the sheer force of being pulled in?

The strength of the gravity field goes up as the inverse square of the distance... but tides go up as the inverse cube, and tidal coupling as the inverse sixth power (!). So the forces on you mount very rapidly as you fall inward.

If you fell in ten times closer than the position you started from, the gravity field would be a hundred times stronger, the tidal squeezes (from the sides) and pulls (inward and outward) would be a thousand times stronger, and the tidal coupling (which of course will affect you far more than it affects the black hole) will be a million times stronger.

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yes thanks so much!

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Who thinks the earth is flat
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NASA and all aeronautical organizations know the earth is flat. For it is in All their official documents, which plainly state that ALL aeronautical navigations/calculations MUST be based upon a Nonrotating, Stationary Flat Earth. Because that is indeed, Reality. 

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