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Till I'll write you more completely but please let's take your first point further . You've said mediation is to reduce thought . Okay but what's to be gained by that ? What's the desired outcome exactly ?
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Excellent post Till_98

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I'm seriously worn out today though . I'll post tomorrow . Maybe post later on the awareness thread though .
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Thanks mdinner, you already posted that too in some other thread when I remember correctly ;). 

@tom:

lol are you serious? Laughing We already told you several times what the purpose of meditating and reducing thoughts is.

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What is to be gained has been rejected by you tom as of no value. Why pretend to be interested?

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Ah and another thing is you, Tom, identify yourself with your mind and thoughts. This is what Tolle calls the "ego". It is basically a construction of thoughts which tries to give you a fake identity. When you identify with your mind it is understandable that you would think that having no thoughts at the moment would be equal to not living. As I said though this is your ego. When you reduce your thoughts your true self is still there cause it got nothing to do with your thoughts.

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Ah till . Okay read now . So let me see if I've got this straight . It does chime with my own experience I'd say .
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All life is interconnected . There is no difference between your life and my life and the life of the tree I see from my back garden .

All the thoughts and feelings and behaviours and so on aren't really what this life is .

Is that in the right sort of ball park ?
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tom... a simple question? Your mind is constantly filled with thoughts, so much so, you have created 6+ threads on the same topic (different titles). All these thoughts have led to admitted confusion on your part. What has been resolved or acheived? Nothing in your never ending search.

Maybe, just maybe if you shut your mind down, listened, you'd make progress.

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Kaynight I believe in me . You're challenging me right now but I have absolute certainty in who I am . Like I say I absolutely do not need your validation .

As I believe in me I believe in you too .
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How would you know ?!!
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Md follow my thread awareness . I'll be doing that there . I just enjoy learning and thinking about these things , til I hope you'll read the question I asked you precious page as I'm finding you very informative . Thank you .,
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Tom, mdinnerspace´s suggestion is actually really useful although it may sound harsh. Because when you are not your mind and not your thoughts then how could you possibly understand who you are using your mind? It´s impossible. Do you get what I mean?

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That's a good question Kay . I guess the answer is I want to know why I am who I am .
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I do til and you're beautiful . Would you please read the comment I made you though and let me know what you think ?
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Wow so many people talking ! I've got to charge my phone though as I'm going to get a chinese for my beautiful Angel . Thanks for the company though .
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It´s still Till not Til, for the 10th time ;). I just read your comment and you seem to get it. Living is always at the moment, that is what connects us all.

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haha

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You take her to a Chinese (ugh!) and you'll be paying attention to the phone once there? She must be an angel indeed, Tom!

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Sorry till . Thanks buddy
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