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Streptomicin

Sry England.

Nothing more to say.

trysts

I don't know what "Sry England" means, but Djokovic is amazing this year, and could win the grand slam!Smile

Streptomicin

Sry for poor Murray. He was so close. Last time he lost, in Australia final game, he could not recover for some time.

I still can't fully understand the magnitude of what he is doing. Not to lose a game in 5 months! And 2 wins vs. best player on clay in history of tennis!

Streptomicin

I love how free will works, so you can think about someone who played 37 games, and won 37 games, that he sucks.

trysts
Karl_ wrote:

But he sucks!  I don't like his style.  Especially the 10-20 ball bounces before each serve.  And all he does is hit the ball hard, almost no variety to his game at all!

I don't know what happened to Murray, he should be on top by now.  Oh well.


I don't know what you're watching, Karl, but his game is sublime! He plays so pragmatically--move the opponent a wee bit to one side of the court, blast a shot to the other side, then finish him off while he's recovering! Easier said than done. But, Djokovic does it with complete ease. Pretty amazing playerSmile

Streptomicin


Quick rise and quick fall?? Novak is in top 3 for last few years, and now he is taking over. Also he is ONLY player that made Federer slam his racquet on the ground, and ONLY player that exhausted Rafa!

He has one of the best serve returns, he has power shoots, he has drop shoots...

And what Slams are you talking about? Miami, Rome, Dubai, Madrid is nothing if he does not win everything this year, and I guess you will still say he is borring, and not there on the top yet.

trysts
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

But he sucks!  I don't like his style.  Especially the 10-20 ball bounces before each serve.  And all he does is hit the ball hard, almost no variety to his game at all!

I don't know what happened to Murray, he should be on top by now.  Oh well.


I don't know what you're watching, Karl, but his game is sublime! He plays so pragmatically--move the opponent a wee bit to one side of the court, blast a shot to the other side, then finish him off while he's recovering! Easier said than done. But, Djokovic does it with complete ease. Pretty amazing player


Yes, he is an amazing player.  But his style is so boring to watch.  Plus, he has had a history of stamina concerns and injuries.  IMO, not a true number one in tennis.  I guess the slams this year will tell the story. 

He plays somewhat like Jim Courier used to.  But more consistent.  I thought Courier was boring to watch too.  And he wasn't a true number one either, quick rise and quick fall.  Ivan Lendel had a similar style too and was also boring.  Also not a true number one, he just played at a good time for him.


Ivan Lendl is not a "true" champion??? What are you talking about? Half, I mean half, of the streaks, titles, whatever, that tennis players strive to compete with, are Ivan Lendl's. Djokovic is doing something only Federer and Nadal had a chance to do, since McEnroe in 1984, which is to hold all grand slam titles in a single year! Djokovic is crazy good!Smile

trysts
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

But he sucks!  I don't like his style.  Especially the 10-20 ball bounces before each serve.  And all he does is hit the ball hard, almost no variety to his game at all!

I don't know what happened to Murray, he should be on top by now.  Oh well.


I don't know what you're watching, Karl, but his game is sublime! He plays so pragmatically--move the opponent a wee bit to one side of the court, blast a shot to the other side, then finish him off while he's recovering! Easier said than done. But, Djokovic does it with complete ease. Pretty amazing player


Yes, he is an amazing player.  But his style is so boring to watch.  Plus, he has had a history of stamina concerns and injuries.  IMO, not a true number one in tennis.  I guess the slams this year will tell the story. 

He plays somewhat like Jim Courier used to.  But more consistent.  I thought Courier was boring to watch too.  And he wasn't a true number one either, quick rise and quick fall.  Ivan Lendel had a similar style too and was also boring.  Also not a true number one, he just played at a good time for him.


Ivan Lendl is not a "true" champion??? What are you talking about? Half, I mean half, of the streaks, titles, whatever, that tennis players strive to compete with, are Ivan Lendl's. Djokovic is doing something only Federer and Nadal had a chance to do, since McEnroe in 1984, which is to hold all grand slam titles in a single year! Djokovic is crazy good!


I'm talking about Lendel's style and mental game.  He came at the right time, I highly doubt he could beat Borg, McEnroe, or Connors in their primes consistently.  Plus, the racket tech was just starting to get the good type of rackets, wood rackets were just going out.  How long was he at the top before Lendel won his first Major?  It was years I believe.  Even Chang beat him in a French Open final, the only major Chang ever won!  Could you see either Lendel or Djokovic playing with wood rackets they way they did/do with synthetics?  I can't.  Federer and Rafa I could see adapting their games easily.

Plus, I'm tired of all the recent talk of "best ever" in tennis.  Rod Laver was the best ever, hands down.  Won two consecutive grand slams (consecutive as in ones he was eligible for), and couldn't compete for them most of his prime years.  He would have shattered all the records if he could have only played then, but politics affected tennis back then. 

I saw Laver play, I know.  He could hit his backhand harder, with a wood racket remember, than players do now, with all the power rackets.  He was just amazing!


You're judging tennis from watching midgets play tennis in the 60's?! Hilarious!Laughing

trysts
Karl_ wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Laver

BTW, "puny" Laver won a pro grand slam one year also.  So, he wins three Grand Slams (that means he won all four grand slam events in the same year, and did this three separate times!).  And no one else has even done that once in the modern, pro era but him.  But those pro titles he won don't count towards the official records.  Which I bet he owns in slam titles hands down!

If you saw him play you would understand why.  Many experts said he had perfect form and technique.  Don't just take my word for it, I gave a handy link above!


Laver only won two grand slams. Once as an amatuer, once as a pro. Among the very tiny people he beat, was Ken Rosewell. Pretty little. Like a "little person". Back then, being a tinsey little tinsey tinse, was not a handicap. Today. Laver would have been laughed at for his limited skills on a tennis court, instead of being ridiculed for being shorter than meLaughing

trysts
Karl_ wrote:

Can you name one other player to win a Grand Slam in a calendar year?  Man or Women?


Helloooo! I have google here! Steffi Graf was the last player to win the Grand slam. Before her, Margret Court. McEnroe probably should have won in 1984, but Lendl beat him in the French Open after being down two sets to none. After that, it's all Federer, having a chance for a grand slam 3 times, yet being beat by Nadal in the French open all three timesWink

bigpoison

Poor little kitty-cats.Cry

trysts
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Can you name one other player to win a Grand Slam in a calendar year?  Man or Women?


Helloooo! I have google here! Steffi Graf was the last player to win the Grand slam. Before her, Margret Court. McEnroe probably should have won in 1984, but Lendl beat him in the French Open after being down two sets to none. After that, it's all Federer, having a chance for a grand slam 3 times, yet being beat by Nadal in the French open all three times


OK, Google smarty!  So who won the first Grand Slam?

BTW, you forgot about Sampras.  He held the total slam titles record.  For a male that is.  Before Roger did.

I only used Google for handy links for the rest of you.  I'm a student of tennis history!  At least for some of it!  :))

BTW, Graf's main competitor in her later years was out by default.  Remember Monica Seles?  Not only soccer fans are crazy!


Yes, Steffi fans are crazy enough to stab people, then not serve time in prison! But seriously, Rod Laver would have been punished for daring to exist today. Racquets, my butt! He would have been destroyed by Sharapova!Laughing

trysts

Sharapova is back, Karl! She just won the Italian Open, beating Wozniaki and French Open finalist from last year, Samantha Stosur! I love her, I think she's great!Smile

trysts
Karl_ wrote:

She sure looks good!

Hey, still waiting for first Grand Slam winner, Google girl!  Do you need a hint?


Do you want me to get carpel tunnels for revenge!Laughing

Don Budge: 1938

trysts

I love Federer! And I am so happy I followed him for the last eight years. It was brilliant tennis, and he may have one or two "slams" leftSmile

philidorposition

It was an epic match today. "Federer is betterer." Swiss proverb.

First, Gelfand wins the candidates, then Na Li eliminates Sharapova, now Federer beats Joko on his way to record winning streak. Perhaps I shouldn't be too worried about my getting old depression!

trysts
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Can you name one other player to win a Grand Slam in a calendar year?  Man or Women?


Helloooo! I have google here! Steffi Graf was the last player to win the Grand slam. Before her, Margret Court. McEnroe probably should have won in 1984, but Lendl beat him in the French Open after being down two sets to none. After that, it's all Federer, having a chance for a grand slam 3 times, yet being beat by Nadal in the French open all three times


OK, Google smarty!  So who won the first Grand Slam?

BTW, you forgot about Sampras.  He held the total slam titles record.  For a male that is.  Before Roger did.

I only used Google for handy links for the rest of you.  I'm a student of tennis history!  At least for some of it!  :))

BTW, Graf's main competitor in her later years was out by default.  Remember Monica Seles?  Not only soccer fans are crazy!


I wasn't asked about Sampras, smarty, so how did I forget about him?Laughing

Who won the first "grand slam", you ask? Amatuer, or professional?

trysts
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:
trysts wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Can you name one other player to win a Grand Slam in a calendar year?  Man or Women?


Helloooo! I have google here! Steffi Graf was the last player to win the Grand slam. Before her, Margret Court. McEnroe probably should have won in 1984, but Lendl beat him in the French Open after being down two sets to none. After that, it's all Federer, having a chance for a grand slam 3 times, yet being beat by Nadal in the French open all three times


OK, Google smarty!  So who won the first Grand Slam?

BTW, you forgot about Sampras.  He held the total slam titles record.  For a male that is.  Before Roger did.

I only used Google for handy links for the rest of you.  I'm a student of tennis history!  At least for some of it!  :))

BTW, Graf's main competitor in her later years was out by default.  Remember Monica Seles?  Not only soccer fans are crazy!


I wasn't asked about Sampras, smarty, so how did I forget about him?

Who won the first "grand slam", you ask? Amatuer, or professional?


Well, you said it's been all Federer lately.  But the record for Slam titles he broke was Sampras's.  So there!  :))

First Grand Slam by Budge was when he was an amateur.  I'm not even sure if they had a pro circuit back when he played.


If you look at post #26, you'll see a similar responseLaughing

trysts

If you want to test my memory, Karl, then ask more difficult questions, like "what year is it?"Laughing

Streptomicin
Karl_ wrote:

Li Na wins the French!  First Asian player to win a grand slam title!

Hey, where are all you posters who was saying Joko was so great?  Now that he lost yet again in a Major tourny?  Hmmmmmm?


You can't be serious? Or are you?! Not so great? So if he does not lose another game in next 40 he will still not be so great?