Math is functioning well in technical application.It might be good to create universe.
Has Light got a decay factor?
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Iknowthemoves wrote:
The decaying photon...as quietly as a diamond changing colour !
The answer to the question is NO , light doesn't have a detectable decay factor. However it may well have a 'spagetti' factor. Just like you would be spagettified falling into a Black hole light is being spagettified by any gravity well that it leaves. Add to that we are moving away from the Universe because our galaxy is collapsing there is the Red Shift we see.
NO BIG BANG.
So, in my model anyone within a galaxy would see an expanding Universe but the reality is the opposite. Our space,being inside a galaxy, is contracting making the outside appear to expand. It's contraction is speeding up so it appears as though the Universe,as a whole, is expanding quicker. That's it.edit 22/10/2013 (i'm just putting this synopsis here so I don't lose it.)
We have a much larger and older Steady State Universe than 13.8 billion years with areas of contraction (galaxies) and expansion (voids).
Mass is squeezed out of existance at the centre of galaxies (perhaps also at the centre of stars) and re-emerges in the voids (white holes) in the form of fundamental particles where there is the least resistance to re-entry.
They interact with the radiation leached from the areas of galaxies around them and start to create Matter (Hydrogen) through the Higgs Field /Mechanism.
This process continues until the new mass in the voids starts to collapse into stars and galaxies. The galaxies eventually leach away all of their energy and mass and become voids which starts the whole process again with no energy loss so goes on ad infinitum.
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No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts. If you believe doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
- Letter to Robert Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Earl of Lytton (15 June 1877)
The Unified Model - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/unified-model-of-the-universe
The Problum is this guy is talking out his/her as* and is hoping because no one can prove him/her wroung he/she will appear smart.
I do have a mighty fine ass thank you <3
https://phys.org/news/2017-08-trappist-older-solar.html
The Trappist solar system could be 10 Billion years old. Such Red Dwarf systems could last for trillions of years ! The current model of 13.8 billion years seems way to short a time for all that we see.
Iknowthemoves wrote:
The decaying photon...as quietly as a diamond changing colour !
The answer to the question is NO , light doesn't have a detectable decay factor. However it may well have a 'spagetti' factor. Just like you would be spagettified falling into a Black hole light is being spagettified by any gravity well that it leaves. Add to that we are moving away from the Universe because our galaxy is collapsing there is the Red Shift we see.
NO BIG BANG.
So, in my model anyone within a galaxy would see an expanding Universe but the reality is the opposite. Our space,being inside a galaxy, is contracting making the outside appearto expand. It's contraction is speeding up so it appears as though the Universe,as a whole, is expanding quicker. That's it.edit 22/10/2013 (i'm just putting this synopsis here so I don't lose it.)
We have a much larger and older Steady State Universe than 13.8 billion years with areas of contraction (galaxies) and expansion (voids).
Mass is squeezed out of existance at the centre of galaxies (perhaps also at the centre of stars) and re-emerges in the voids (white holes) in the form of fundamental particles where there is the least resistance to re-entry.
They interact with the radiation leached from the areas of galaxies around them and start to create Matter (Hydrogen) through the Higgs Field /Mechanism.
This process continues until the new mass in the voids starts to collapse into stars and galaxies. The galaxies eventually leach away all of their energy and mass and become voids which starts the whole process again with no energy loss so goes on ad infinitum.
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Based on your post above, It seems you have a misunderstanding of Einstein's Special Relativity Theory. In the Special Relativity Theory there is something called "The Speed Of Causality". The speed of causality speed limit is critical in order for the space/time in which we exist to form particles. Without the speed of causality our space/time would not exist. There wwould simply be energy speeding about at the speed of infinity/Instantaneous. It would be impossible to gather energy to form particles.
Light is electromagnetic energy wave phenomenon in our space/time that just happens to travel at the same speed as the speed of causality (286,000 miles/second). According to Maxwell's formulas the speed of light must be maintained in order for light to remain being the phenomenon of light. Light is able to maintain the speed of light because the photons (particles of light) follow infallibly a path of least action (stationary action). Richard Feynman created a mathematical formula that describes how a photon in the quantum wave is able to select from a infinity of paths, the path of least action, everytime without fail.
When you mention in your post spaghetification is an effect on matter in a Black Hole and that possibly light is possibly slowed by this spaghetification. A proper understanding of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity will reveal the Lorentz Transform. The Lorentz Transform verifies that the Speed of Causality is the same in the First, Second and Third dimensions. This fact together with Maxwell's laws of light : light must maintain its speed (286,000 miles/second) in order for it to be the phenomenon of light in our space/time.
Because of the above facts it does not make sense to consider that spaghetification would have any effect on light.
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No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should never trust experts. If you believe doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
- Letter to Robert Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Earl of Lytton (15 June 1877)
The Unified Model - https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/unified-model-of-the-universe
The Problum is this guy is talking out his/her as* and is hoping because no one can prove him/her wroung he/she will
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https://phys.org/news/2017-08-trappist-older-solar.html
The Trappist solar system could be 10 Billion years old. Such Red Dwarf systems could last for trillions of years ! The current model of 13.8 billion years seems way to short a time for all that we see.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/841935/Why-is-there-a-universe-quarks-quantum-physics-big-bang-nothing-god The latest research negates the need for a Big Bang or inflationary model. It's findings, if correct, support a Unified Model or one very much like it.
Iknowthemoves wrote:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/841935/Why-is-there-a-universe-quarks-quantum-physics-big-bang-nothing-god The latest research negates the need for a Big Bang or inflationary model. It's findings, if correct, support a Unified Model or one very much like it.
First, I dispell your notion of spaghetification of light with facts from Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. And, you respond with a reference to a website that negates the need for a Big Bang or an inflationary model. You want to overlay this Unified Model of the Universe based on unverified factors in our universe (space/time). Leonard Susskind of Stanford University out of California has been doing research on ER=EPR. It theorizes a process that energy passes thru from raw energy to Black Holes to Quantum Entanglement and back again. There is no need for Big Bangs or inflationary models in this theory either. It is as occam's razor a much simpler explanation of how things work in our (space/time) universe.
If we use telescope to detect redshift,it might be better to check light acceleration caused by earth gravity.Because such acceleration can cause Doppler effect.
extenza wrote:
If we use telescope to detect redshift,it might be better to check light acceleration caused by earth gravity.Because such acceleration can cause Doppler effect.
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A proper understanding of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity will reveal the Lorentz Transform. The Lorentz Transform verifies that the Speed of Causality is the same in the First, Second and Third dimensions. This fact together with Maxwell's laws of light : light must maintain its speed (286,000 miles/second) in order for it to be the phenomenon of light in our space/time.
The speed of propogation of electromagnetic waves in our space/time just happens to match The Speed Of Causality (286,000 miles/second). The space/time (universe) doesn't give a damn about the speed of light. However, The Speed Of Causality is critical to the existense of our space/time (universe). Without the speed of causality particles cannot form and our space/time (universe)cannot exist.
I think the light's bent in gravity field is proof of accelerating light when come to earth station.
extenza wrote:
I think the light's bent in gravity field is proof of accelerating light when come to earth station.
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There is no accelerating thru the warped space/time. It simply continues at the speed of causality (the speed of light-286,000 miles/second) FOLLOWING A CURVED SPACE/TIME.
The latest data is showing a huge rise in the estimate of baryonic matter. Further drawing into doubt the existence of Dark Matter , Dark Energy and the whole inflating model of the universe. Based on recent research, there may be as many as 100 million black holes in the Milky Way galaxy alone. Image credit: ESA. Milky Way Houses Up To 100 Million Black Holes, With Big Implications For LIGO That number is far bigger than anyone expected, but physics doesn’t lie. “Our first priority was making sure we weren’t fooling ourselves.” -Keith Riles, LIGO team member How many black holes are there in the Milky Way? This straightforward question has proven extremely difficult to answer, since black holes are so difficult to directly detect. However, scientists not only have developed indirect methods for locating and even weighing them, we also understand how the Universe forms them: from stars and stellar remnants. If we can understand the different stars that existed at all different times in our galaxy’s history, we should be able to infer exactly how many black holes — and of what mass — exist in our galaxy today. Thanks to a comprehensive study by a trio of researchers from UC Irvine, the first accurate estimates of the number of black holes found in Milky Way-like galaxy have now been made. Not only is our galaxy filled with hundreds of billions of stars, but we also are home to up to 100 million black holes.
Because of spontaneous symmetry breakdown there is going to be variation in the percentage of meson/baryonic matter, dark matter, and dark energy.
The number of black holes in the Milky Way Galaxy is not surprising either given the way ER=EPR Theory works. The warping of space occurred instantaneously throughout the universe. The maintenance of gravity in the universe occurs throughout the universe at the speed of light. In other words, there will be lots of variation throughoout the universe in the process back and forth from entanglement to raw energy warping space/time instantaneously and the process reversing thru black holes to its endstage of entanglement maintained at the speed of light.
What about Cherenkov phenomena.It seems involving faster than light speed.
extenza wrote:
What about Cherenkov phenomena.It seems involving faster than light speed.
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There has been no scientific verification of faster than light speed
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262640913_Scientific_Verification_of_the_High_Altitude_Water_Cherenkov_observatory
https://phys.org/news/2017-09-analysis-reveals-dozens-unknown-gamma-ray.html
The latest data from the Spitzer telescope supports the Unified Model as to a much larger and older Universe than current estimates.
Iknowthemoves wrote:
https://phys.org/news/2017-09-analysis-reveals-dozens-unknown-gamma-ray.html
The latest data from the Spitzer telescope supports the Unified Model as to a much larger and older Universe than current estimates.
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Once again speculative. Instead of sticking with the basics of the space/time that we live in.
https://www.sciencealert.com/bubbles-of-expanding-space-could-be-the-end-of-dark-energy
Now dark Energy isn't needed in the latest modelling. Yet more ammunition to support our Unified Model
extenza, you are doing a good job. I am going to answer you. Math is philosophy and for a good reason. Math starts with a wrong assumption. Math assumes both time and distance are continuous. Now if you would like to go further or discuse this, please do.
As for the photons; ALL particles have 3 mass states. A photon is a particle, one state is massless, the other to have mass, one is the W particle, and the other has one unit of mass (which is exactly the mass of one of the neutrinos, about .04ev) and that is why the photon with this unit of mass will bend in a strong gravitational "field". That state decays , like ALL particles in their upper two mass states. It is realatively easy for the photon to aquire one unit of mass. (just as it is done for the 3 neutrinos, because in this case the other two states are 2 and 3 units of mass). FITS well together, doesn't it