Is Covid-19 Getting Better Part 1

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Are you not reading what I’m linking?

Undeniable WHY? Because you say so?

““For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39% [6], substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96% [7].”

I’m supposed to believe you over Harvard? Peer reviewed and published less than 30 days ago using all the latest statistics?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

I’m not giving you conspiracy theory links or CNN spinning what it wants.

So far I’ve linked Stanford University, Harvard University and Israel(who the CDC says the world looks to for data) and the CDC itself which stated actual cases could be as much as 20x what is reported(further dropping the case fatality rate).

Covid is not what we were told and neither is the vaccine.
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This is why straight fatality rate is useless:


Total deaths from COVID-19 736,875
0-17 years 558
18-29 years 4,156
30-39 years 12,217
40-49 years 30,090
50-64 years 132,407
65-74 years 166,424
75-84 years 192,375
85 years and older 198,648

As you can see it is undeniable fact that older people die at a tremendously higher rate than younger people.

For 0-17 the deaths are almost nonexistent for a country of 350 million.

The age group matters very much.
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Don’t question the divinely inspired vaccine, and undermine the danger of the demonic virus, with numbers and facts, Peet. It might make us less pliant.
It’s strange. Usually debates are over how to respond to a set of facts, but with COVID, everybody debated over what the facts are… and calls everyone else “misinformed”
or “conspiracy theorists”, which shows how politicized this stupid germ has gotten. And politics is never solely about safety of the public, I don’t care what side you’re on.
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Where do you get that death statistic?
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The World Health Organization reports 4,998,784 deaths
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Here is the W.H.O. Dashboard

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://covid19.who.int/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiTmqrxz_jzAhW3B50JHTsTD68QFnoECAoQAg&usg=AOvVaw09F2SH4nZQ2D7isL2AgLG-
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Sorry about the “undeniable” by the way. I thought most people agreed on that.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

Last updated October 27th
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That’s American deaths I’m trying to keep it simple
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I missed a bit. My Imao question is still unanswered though not that I care too much though.

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ExploringWA wrote:

I’m still trying to figure out why the vaccinated have to wear masks to prevent spreading a disease to those who choose not to get vaccinated, as the only unvaccinated left are those who have made that personal choice. 

This was mostly answered but I can add an extract to an essay I wrote about the unintended consequences of the RNA vaccines of it working if you want. (I did not word that wrong) .

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Defenceking27 wrote:

I missed a bit. My Imao question is still unanswered though not that I care too much though.

I’m guess it’s because there is no scientific data that supports wearing masks. Statistically, every new case in the U.S. is someone who wears masks. 

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Was asking Ron. Yeah 8 hr old post.

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Defenceking27 wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:

I’m still trying to figure out why the vaccinated have to wear masks to prevent spreading a disease to those who choose not to get vaccinated, as the only unvaccinated left are those who have made that personal choice. 

This was mostly answered but I can add an extract to an essay I wrote about the unintended consequences of the RNA vaccines of it working if you want. (I did not word that wrong) .

I’d be happy to read it. 

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Cool 1 sec

 

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or min depending on internet

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 "In mentioning this, the RNA vaccine can be counterproductive as it does not make you immune or stop you from spreading the illness. This is because it just lessens the symptoms*. Meaning if you are a healthy individual, you are more likely to be asymptomatic and not be tested. Thus, meaning that you have more chance of passing it on without knowing it. With that in mind, that vaccines like Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Valneva all deactivated viruses that have the spike proteins intact, so the body has an immune response. **"

(This is in a bigger paragraph in a essay comparing Covid, the bubonic plague and the Ebola virus)

*This is still good for at risk patients if you exclude Myocarditis and pericarditis and the unknown long term effects (If there are). (this last bit was not in the essay) 

**(You become immune)

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(I am neutral in this debate. I just want to inform)

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Defenceking27 wrote:

 In mentioning this, the RNA vaccine can be counterproductive as it does not make you immune or stop you from spreading the illness. This is because it just lessens the symptoms*. Meaning if you are a healthy individual, you are more likely to be asymptomatic and not be tested. Thus, meaning that you have more chance of passing it on without knowing it. With that in mind, that vaccines like Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Valneva all deactivated viruses that have the spike proteins intact, so the body has an immune response. **

(This is in a bigger paragraph in a essay comparing Covid, the bubonic plague and the Ebola virus)

*This is still good for at risk patients if you exclude Myocarditis and pericarditis and the unknown long term effects (If there are). (this last bit was not in the essay) 

**(You become immune)

Thank you. If everyone is vaccinated, spreading the illness and catching the illness is no longer an issue. People who choose to vaccinate understand that they can still catch and spread the virus, but that is acceptable to others who choose to vaccinate. I don’t know a single vaccinated person that is worried even a bit about being exposed to Covid. That’s freedom. Mandating that vaccinated people wear masks to prevent the spread of Covid to those who choose not to vaccinate, it still makes no sense. 

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There is also a bit about how the RNA vaccines do not fit the traditional title Vaccine by the CDC but my work is done. Bye peps.

Stay safe,

Defenceking27 

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