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carolina0509L wrote:

troy here talking about all this..........listen to this and say me you dont like it...........

 

 

  It's beautiful, but let us not get carried away: as all music is, it contains suffering in it; a little sadness, a little hope, some expectations of something big happening--all music contains the spectrum of human emotions, which denote suffering. What can an artist express, other than themselves, which is the suffering of mankind, more or less.

  That being said, one enjoys James Blunt, not that he's any different. It's just a fact.

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ok

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 So, no solution. Or, the problem itself is the solution. Or, the 'solution' is the very problem. The problem is the problem, but also the solution is the problem. They are both the problem, and there is no solution.

  There is only the problem.

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.. Or, 'at Best' .. A, 'Lowered Expectations', mode .. lol ..

 

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 Rather, no-expectations mode.

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its a paradox......paradoja

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.. Do, I agree with this, or not !? ... I guess, I Do ! .. Given, 'troy's, Non-awareness/ recognition, of an Out-side- agent, if you will. - Ergo - Whom, is Anyone to say, that a {a-hem}, 'Supreme Being', doesn't have the ontological right, to Act, as He wants, {in conformity, with His semi-mystery shrouded, Grand Design !?} .. Including, the aspect, of 'walking' by Faith, {for those, who choose to}.. In preference, to 'Him' Not, Scaring us, half-to-death, with His, {'in-your-face'}, Power-and-Glory.

 

Of course, if someone, {Anyone}, doesn't Know about something, {esp. of that Nature}.. There's, No convincing them, that, it's a Reality ! .. Sort've like, a person, {from the future}, talking about, the 'infra-red' {energy}, spectrum.. to a group of 'scholars', from, let's say, '400, A.D.'! o:

 

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carolina0509L wrote:

its a paradox......paradoja

 

  Not really:a paradox is something mysterious, confusing.

  This is rather simple: there is no solution. What does this mean for the person who wants to solve the problem?

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Flank_Attacks wrote:

.. Do, I agree with this, or not !? ... I guess, I Do ! .. Given, 'troy's, Non-awareness/ recognition, of an Out-side- agent, if you will. - Ergo - Whom, is Anyone to say, that a {a-hem}, 'Supreme Being', doesn't have the ontological right, to Act, as He wants, {in conformity, with His semi-mystery shrouded, Grand Design !?} .. Including, the aspect, of 'walking' by Faith, {for those, who choose to}.. In preference, to 'Him' Not, Scaring us, half-to-death, with His, {'in-your-face'}, Power-and-Glory.

 

Of course, if someone, {Anyone}, doesn't Know about something, {esp. of that Nature}.. There's, No convincing them, that, it's a Reality ! .. Sort've like, a person, {from the future}, talking about, the 'infra-red' {energy}, spectrum.. to a group of 'scholars', from, let's say, '400, A.D.'! o:

 

 

 

  That's the division which keeps the mind active, and so never still.

  Is there something 'right' in an illusion? The whole point is to see it's an illusion, rather than calling it right or wrong.

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 The answer to puzzle from 11 days ago.

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And yet perception hasn't changed! We are still nationalistic, starting wars, quarreling, getting jealous, possessive and all the rest.

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troy7915 wrote:

And yet perception hasn't changed! We are still nationalistic, starting wars, quarreling, getting jealous, possessive and all the rest.

  The results of a fallen human nature, what can you do?  Even the Saints had their flaws.

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No, it is the result of a flawed perception, at the very core of oneself.

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No, it is the result of a flawed perception, at the very core of oneself.

  A misconception as a result of our fallen nature.

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What is our nature?

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.. "A soft answer, turneth away wrath" {argumentativeness} .. Not, that it will be perceived, as such !?

{which, is Not to disallow, further query}.

 

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We are trying to find out our nature; condemning it ('sinful') prevents its understanding.

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.. Wow.. A relevant quote, I came across.. That, even the 'U.N.' General Assembly, could probably agree on .. Though short of, officially being, brought up, for a 'vote'! ..{tee-hee}.

 

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Not so much. What really affects one's perception is not the objects of their beliefs, but the existence or non-existence of the mechanism that produces beliefs, any beliefs.

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What about the 'mechanism' that forms your Own beliefs, 'troy !? .. Ie., Surely, though a 'bird' of a different 'feather', {if you will} - Nonetheless, a 'bird'!