Proof That The Flat Earth Is Incorrect

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Ziggy_Zugzwang

This is based on this link:

https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/flat-earth-follies-nearby-sun-impossible.html

 

I've drawn a little sketch. But first a reminder of some simple trig.

In a right angle triangle the tan of an angle, say alpha , tan (alpha) = height / distance. Here visualise a street light of height 5 metres, where we are 5 metres away from the base. The angle from our foot to the top is 45 degree. Alpha is 45 degrees and tan alpha = 5 / 5 =1

If we are 10 metres away tan alpha = 5/10 = 0.5

or 30 metres away then tan alpha = 5/30 = 0.166 recurring

 

We can rearrange the formula to make height the subject of the formula.

So height = distance from base * tan(alpha)

OK so at 5 metres away NOT KNOWING THE HEIGHT we can calculate it by using 5 * tan(45)

= 5 * 1 = 5 m  - we have of course measured the angle with some instrument

At 10 metre away, measuring the angle we then calculate 10 * 5/10 =  10 * 0.5 = 5m

At 30 metres we get 30 * 5/30 = 5m

The height is the same for the top of the lamppost, no matter how far we are away from it. Trivial, but I mention it for the next part....

 

In the Flat Earth model the Sun is the same distance above the Earth all over:

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Starting from the assumption that the Sun is near the Earth  - like a lamp post,  My picture represents a person at two points at two different latitudes. The far left represent the sun overhead at the equator. The top diagram could be at a hotter latitude where alpha = 80 degrees ,corresponding to a 'round earth' latitude of 10 degrees. The bottom might give a value of alpha of say 30 degrees, corresponding to a latitude of 60 degrees

 

The link I give, gives the distance from the equator along with the observed angle of the sun for a number of latitudes. All of these are at the same time and incontrovertible. Trivially we could use our phones to speak to other people at different latitudes with measuring devices - sextants, I think they're called.

 

If our provisional model is correct the lamp post sun should be at the same height as observed from all positions on the plane. I've copied from the link given

 
Latitude Observed Angle Of
Sun At Equinox
Distance from
Equator (miles)
Which Height
Is It?
10°
80°
690.3 3915.1
20°
70.01°
1380.0 3793.6
30°
60.01°
2070.3 3587.4
40°
50.01°
2760.7 3291.2
45°
45.02°
3105.2 3107.3
50°
40.02°
3450.3 2897.2
60°
30.03°
4140.0 2393.1
70°
20.04°
4829.6 1761.7
80°
10.09°
5516.5 981.7
89°
1.36°
6119.2 145.3

 

It isn't.

 

I want to say something about the reason why the flat earth model is being put out there. I believe there are fundamentalist Christians/Jews/Muslims who want to view reality through the lens of their religion rather than through optical instruments. Those promoting flat earth find fertile ground here.

 

I believe there are another body who do it. They are people who wish to discredit the truth seeking community, who amongst other things will say NASA hoaxed the world.  A lot of flat earth you tube videos will demonstrate the falsity of NASAs claim and then started blarhing about a 'Flat Earth' I suggest this is a psi op. I noticed that puppet Obama was going on about 'Flat Earthers' not long before his term came to an end. LOOK out for Trump expressing the same meme.

I'm suggesting the Powers That Be are putting out this 'Flat Earth' meme to discredit rational challenges to  explanations of events and paradigms in the world that are being rightly being articulated.

CookedQueen

Wonderful written. Actually very easy to disprove flat earthers dream world.

 

The point is either flat earthers are trolling or their sole acting is based on believe and they would never accept a disprove. Means rational arguments don't count, only their believe in such a dream world counts.

 

 

Pikelemi

Now dont make the proof so complicated:

 

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Ziggy_Zugzwang

The summary of the opening post is that at a given time on a particular line of longitude, people measure different angles than a flat earth sun allows for, if the vertical distance is constant, as per their model.

The 'Flat Earth' is being promoted primarily by NASA IMHO to discredit NASA sceptics who wish to guide neutral observers to bracket them with the religious fundamentalist buffoons with which this model finds fertile soil.

Their logic is as devious as their flat earth trigonometry is bogus: If you doubt the moon landings and the other stuff you are a 'flat earther'.

 

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."

CookedQueen

The earth is flat.

Period.

Pikelemi
CookedQueen wrote:

The earth is flat.

Period.

 

Yep. Flat the whole way around.

CookedQueen

Like spacetime being bent and warped by heavy objects, according to Einstein.

But there's a problem. If the theory of Einstein is correct, then the earth can't be flat.

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OneThousandEightHundred18
Do flat earthers believe all planets are flat, or just earth?
ThePEPSIChallenge

how the hell can a person believe such if they have played a game with an opponent the other sider the GLOBE from them and it's 12 hours different when they mention what you're having for breakfast and reply a crab with cauliflower butter and lemon because it's your dinner?

DeepFlight12

Formally, the scientific method is a system of falsifiable hypothesis. This means a given scientific theory must be phrased in such a way that contrary evidence can disprove it. That means, formally nothing is ever really proven, only disproven.

However, one popular interpretation of the scientific method allows you to say that some hypothesis are "true" or "correct" within a given problem domain. For example, Newton's Laws of Motion are "true" within the problem domain of normal objects here on planet Earth, because we have tested them in thousands of different ways. We now know that near the speed of light or near infinite densities, Newton's Laws of Motion start to break down - instead you have to use Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. But, here on Earth, its fair to say that Newton's Laws of Motion are "true" in every normal sense of that word.

Jeff Nelson

Sorry Ziggy, but your little excersize doesn't "prove" a round earth. It proves the math is correct, the only true proofs lie in mathamatics.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

Sorry Ziggy, but your little excersize doesn't "prove" a round earth. It proves the math is correct, the only true proofs lie in mathamatics.

 

There is something in what you say. If I have spotless underwear, it doesn't prove I'm necessarily clean in general, but could corroborate I'm anally retentive happy.png

Seriously though, I could have phrased it Corroboration of a Non Flat Earth Using Trigonometry and An Appeal To Occam's Razor, but I wished to get over a point rather than boast I've studied Philosophy of Science...

incorrectname

yes the flat earth is me

Jonathan-Harker
The earth is like a pizza. On the surface we have the crust.
ThePEPSIChallenge

I like the theory it being lol square.

 

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triangular works too

 

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incorrectname

and the moon orbits in a rectangular shape

Endapuppy
Ziggy are you sure you've given this enough thought?
2STONE2

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Published on Oct 4, 2017
Another stunning video recorded by same pilot https://youtu.be/sX6kt9nMHA8 If It Were Not Filmed, No One Would Believe It! 2017 FOOTAGE of EARTH Taken by Pilot Subscribe, Rate, Comment, Share and like our page on facebook: https://goo.gl/z4sJV1 Pilot LX https://www.facebook.com/pilot.lx/med. Facebook group: https://goo.gl/LYqi7S https://goo.gl/r1qVAw https://goo.gl/b5q7y7 https://goo.gl/ds9Hjy
 

 

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Published on Nov 16, 2017
 
Anyone with half a brain can see how they use deceptive wide angle fish eye lenses to deceive you. If you can't see what this video proves and why so many people awaken every day, then the brainwashing is so deep in you. Original link: https://youtu.be/bMFOtW-FagA - Where's the Curvature? A Look At The Earths Curvature From Space With A 35mm Camera Lens. Using special editing Software and techniques, we can remove the Fisheye Camera effect that is seen in 99% of all Space Agency footage. All of Nasa's earth facing Cameras are fitted with Fisheye lenses which in effect is not giving you the true viewing perspective. The footage featured here is from the Origin Shepard flight on April 2, 2016. The Fisheye Video Camera used is located in the GH2 Vent, just below the Booster’s Ring Fin. As you will see, after adjusting the Camera perspective from Fisheye to a 35mm lens, and even before the Origin leaves the ground, that the horizon is level and true all the way up in to space. You would think the Earths natural curvature would come in to view at the 85,000 feet mark, but no, the Earths curvature never comes in to view throughout the film. This raises questions especially as a Filmmaker. Subscribe, Rate, Comment, Share and join our page on facebook: https://goo.gl/z4sJV1 Facebook group: https://goo.gl/LYqi7S https://goo.gl/r1qVAw https://goo.gl/b5q7y7 https://goo.gl/ds9Hjy FAIR USE NOTICE: This video contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in an effort to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. Not withstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phono-records or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. #FlatEarth

 

07:57  Horizon 12:33  Satellites 22:35  Airplane & Bullet   27:00  Scientists Influenced To Eroneous Deception Earth A Sphere

28:28  NASA’s Serpent Tounge ( Hebrew meaning for nasha ~ to deceive ) 36:51  Wake Up!

 

 

If the Earth was a globe all planes going across it to the other side would have to continually dip it's nose in order to justify the 'claimed' curvature while in flight or they would end up such high altitudes they would be miles higher than what they do not end up because there is no curvature needing to dip the plane's nose.

 

Wikipedia says that there's an 8 inch drop for every mile because of the Earth's curvature. But, I've never heard of any airliner adjusting for the curvature. Also, shouldn't aircraft have to adjust somehow for the Earth's rotation because it varies depending on the latitude?

 

Two answers from probably pilots.

 

The aircraft is usually flown along the density altitude (by pilot or autopilot, as the case may be). As long as the aircraft is flown at a certain altitude, it will be following the earth's curvature (as the atmosphere is attached to the spherical earth and has same properties at same distance from the center, in an ideal case) as the altitude is measured from the surface, which is curved, and not a plane.

 

lol totally debunking my 3 videos.

 

2nd Answer

 

There is no adjustment needed as the aircraft will naturally follow the curvature of the earth without any input from the pilot. This is because the aircraft flies through the atmosphere which also follows the curvature of the earth.  

 

Mike Sowsun

 

Soooo....

 

What If

 

... all the pilots were under the same knowledge and the devices were deviated for them to believe it a curvature because everyone is to accept the world is not flat?

2STONE2

Soooo....

 

What If

 

... all the pilots were under the same knowledge and the devices were deviated for them to believe it a curvature because everyone is to accept the world is not flat?

 

NASA (Hebrew meaning for nasha is 'to deceive')

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2STONE2

2STONE2

Like a Footstool.