troy7915 wrote:
Sco64 wrote:
LSD is one hell of a drug
No, it's not. It is meaningless.
Lies are a hell of a drug as well.
relax and be yourself
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But all drugs are meaningless.
Jul 8, 2016
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#424
troy7915 wrote:
But all drugs are meaningless.
Not that I know, but it's not that I'm avoiding common antiinflammatory medicine like antibiotics, and since I'm not drinking any alchoholic beverage while I'm taking those pills, I'm not putting into practice the very popular self-healing practice.
tomtrytostay wrote:
Like Troy is saying the self and God are both false concepts.
The truth is that all that exist is nature. It's all one.
There can be nothing can that be as a result of the self because in truth there is no self.
So life is neither worthwhile or not worthwhile because truly there is no one to judge that. Life just is. Like a river.
That's why Troy isn't particularly challenged by people saying he's this or that because he accepts like I do that really there is no I .
Also Troy talks about there is no practice that leads to the truth. That that isn't possible because the truth is ever changing.
That stands to reason when you think about it. Look around you. When are two moments identical?
Also without a self how can there be a practise.
My feeling is we all see truths. Everyone of us knows a truth the other doesn't. Troy knows things that you don't and vice versa.
Anyway I feel understand the fundamentals now but I've a lot to learn.
By the way troy's views aren't so radical.
Darwin , Einstein and Hawking have all proposed an alternative to the self/soul idea.
Buddha said all things are interconnected.
Why wouldn't they be?
The truth is that all that exist is nature. It's all one.
There can be nothing can that be as a result of the self because in truth there is no self.
So life is neither worthwhile or not worthwhile because truly there is no one to judge that. Life just is. Like a river.
That's why Troy isn't particularly challenged by people saying he's this or that because he accepts like I do that really there is no I .
Also Troy talks about there is no practice that leads to the truth. That that isn't possible because the truth is ever changing.
That stands to reason when you think about it. Look around you. When are two moments identical?
Also without a self how can there be a practise.
My feeling is we all see truths. Everyone of us knows a truth the other doesn't. Troy knows things that you don't and vice versa.
Anyway I feel understand the fundamentals now but I've a lot to learn.
By the way troy's views aren't so radical.
Darwin , Einstein and Hawking have all proposed an alternative to the self/soul idea.
Buddha said all things are interconnected.
Why wouldn't they be?
Haha, Buddha was wrong, to begin with, which may prompt a reply from Nikprit--so far it worked like clockwork. The illusion is not connected with Truth. Ultimately, yes, energy is energy. But avoiding the abstract talk, as long as illusion is in place, Truth doesn't operate.
In fact, this is exactly what believers attempt on doing: to connect the illusion with the Truth. Obviously a fool's errand. An illusion can only create other illusions, anything but connect with Truth.
As for Einstein, Darwin or Hawkins, their 'proposals' are more of the same, because they're the product of imagination, which is the very foundation of the self. It is well known Einstein's regard for imagination's place, which he made use of aplenty for his material discoveries.
But none of those three musketeers went beyond the limited field of imagination, so their 'proposals' can be discarded at once, in the field of life, that is.
As for 'truths', it is misleading: everyone knows something another doesn't know--that has nothing to do with truth, which is a movement, and which one either 'sees' it( wrong word, but so far there's nothing else) or they don't.
It's very, very simple.
pestebalcanica wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
But all drugs are meaningless.
Not that I know, but it's not that I'm avoiding common antiinflammatory medicine like antibiotics, , and since I'm not drinking any alchoholic beverage while I'm taking those pills I'm not putting into practice the very popular self-healing practice.
Oh, I wasn't talking about those drugs, which may heal the body, they have that power.
But there are no drugs which can heal the psyche.
Jul 8, 2016
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#427
troy7915 wrote:
pestebalcanica wrote:
troy7915 wrote:
But all drugs are meaningless.
Not that I know, but it's not that I'm avoiding common antiinflammatory medicine like antibiotics, , and since I'm not drinking any alchoholic beverage while I'm taking those pills I'm not putting into practice the very popular self-healing practice.
Oh, I wasn't talking about those drugs, which may heal the body, they have that power.
But there are no drugs which can heal the psyche.
I'm not taking any other drugs my dear.
I didn't imply that you do, dear. I'm talking in general, what those drugs can and cannot do.
Jul 8, 2016
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#429
I knew you'd pull me up Troy! I liked your phrase about truth moving. One of the things I like about you is your gentle but determined . You're a man . Or to be less sexist you're secure in who you are and what you have to say.
Jul 8, 2016
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#430
Nikpirt might not post here though Troy while I'm around. He's not talking to me I think.
So far he couldn't help it, when Buddha was 'belittled'. I find it funny.
tomtrytostay wrote:
I knew you'd pull me up Troy! I liked your phrase about truth moving. One of the things I like about you is your gentle but determined . You're a man . Or to be less sexist you're secure in who you are and what you have to say.
As I once said, I'm not a man, I'm not a woman.
Jul 8, 2016
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#433
I agree . Me either Troy .
It's a bit like britney. I'm not a girl, not yet a woman. I love that!
It's a bit like britney. I'm not a girl, not yet a woman. I love that!
Not really! That was between a girl and a woman, not denying her identification with a gender--that was never in question.
This is different: to not identify with a gender at all is to not take it personally when something general about a specific gender is being said. People have such short fuses that when a generality is being said about a gender they get fired up, as if whatever was said includes them as well, so they feel the need to defend, even though a potential statement had nothing to do with them.
And also they might go in the opposite direction, of defending the 'opposite' gender, but from the standpoint of their perceived gender, which is already a bias.
To take sides, either your perceived 'own' side, or the opposite of that illusion( also an illusion), is to miss the facts.
Jul 8, 2016
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#435
Bob Geldof is Chasing Nigel Farage's Brexit Flotilla Down the Thames
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Oh well, I doubt Bruce Springsteen is free of bias, so he cannot say much.
Jul 8, 2016
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#439
troy7915 wrote:
But all drugs are meaningless.
I'm afraid I can't agree. Humans have been using drugs for as long as there's been humans. Some are medicinal and useful, some are highly destructive, some can act as a gateway.
Drugs can never act as a true gateway. False gateway, yes. But basically, they are simply another form of escape from a reality which hasn't been understood.
This is why a person who does drugs lacks intelligence--nothing is really understood, despite the brain aparently functioning temporarily differently. Yet deep inside, the motive for taking drugs comes from the very self, which is trying to escape its own reality: deep inside, it's still there.
No, it's not. It is meaningless.