School is harder than average adult life

My main point against the wages is that there were about 50 million school-going children in the United States. The calculations add up to about 300 billion a year. I really don’t think that cost is justified.

#171, absolutely.

I go to school and learn pretty much nothing, so I just observe my classmates. I learnt everything I did at home. As it turns out, when you don’t have people yelling brainrot next to you, you can concentrate better.

Exactly!!!!

This is not a thread made for an argument saying homeschooling is better than public school. It’s that PUBLIC SCHOOL is much more difficult than adult life. 

I will replay to other posts when I get home. I’m glad this post has gotten many good posts that make for a good discussion. Thanks, EE.

Bad troll bait. So now "adult" isn't 18, 21, 25, but 30s LOL keep moving the goal posts. Trying to subtly imply people are obligated to have families too? I'M not the one complaining, just trying to reduce the number of kids that get guilt-tripped by irrational comments like this. Don't complain about your property taxes now as those are helping pay for the very thing you're saying don't complain about 😆😆😆 "life costs in general" that's what a job is for. My mom is in her 60s and agrees with almost every point I've made here. Looks like reading comprehension wasn't taught well in your school back then as "Adult life" is what I'm saying is easier, not whining about it. I'm simply validating what kids rightfully complain about and helping negate the invalidating that adults who should know better do!

Current school system was based off of an intentionally malicious system apparently like I'll get the proof soon

Of course many things have changed but the primary elements from that time when it was used for that malicious purpose which I don't remember still remain

"And paying kids to go to school sounds wrong. Yes, it is unpaid labor, but that labor benefits nobody but you (sometimes not even you, but I’ll get to that later). Your average student who isn’t eligible for the bonuses will get $6000 per year, which translates to about 516,000 Indian Rupees. My school fees are about 300,000 Indian Rupees. Who’s going to be paying that? The school? It’ll go bankrupt quickly, considering it’s losing more on every child than it’s making. It would kill private schools. The government? I’m not going to comment on anything it’s doing or has done, but adding to the government’s worries doesn’t sound great. I’m talking about every government."

Statistically-predicted money is not money. Kids/teens should be rewarded for their extremely hard work. Now as someone else pointed out, there's the issue of $50,000,000+ kids needing to be paid, but there's no reason for school to take 12 years. Something is being done really inefficiently if that's the minimum completion time. Even if you manage to skip a couple grades and only take 10, that's still an enormous amount of time out of your life when the fact is that 97% of the stuff you learn won't actually be used. But this is the richest country on Earth. The amounts I suggested were literally below minimum wage in some states. Getting simply a PASS to move on to the next grade or a flimsy honor certificate/scholarship to MORE school as a reward for doing extremely well is frankly insulting. At least pay them actual money in that case even if not an hourly wage. And that would incentive good grades if the top 10% of a class gets a $5,000 or $10,000 prize. If most adults were "rewarded" for doing extra well at their job the same way kids are rewarded in schools, we would be throwing a total hissy fit. Taxing the rich 80% would easily pay for this, universal Healthcare, and more. Jobs can't even force you to stay and by law have to pay you for the hours already worked, so why should people forced to work for over a decade not get paid anything (even as little as $1,000 per passed course with a grade above 80%).

The thing I have against homeschooling is that is turns into an excuse by parents to do things like not vaccinate their kids, or get away with abusing them more easily since no one at a school will be noticing the signs. This is also likely the real reason certain states/fed gov (who are actively doing everything else to make kids healthy worse, like cutting school lunches/food pantry funding/pediatric cancer research..etc to "save money") are trying to also ban kids from social media. Taking away their voice, making it harder to figure out if their home lifestyle is abusive/not normal by limiting internet access..etc. Because no one in their right mind can believe that states which make it legal to deny sick kids medical care for "religious reasons", have child marriage ages of 12-13, promote anti-vax nonsense, trying to roll back child labor laws to replace workforces with children that THEY willfully got rid of, want to ban education about their own bodies, suddenly care about the "effects of screentime" on kids. They obviously just want to be able to brainwash them with the least resistance possible, and access to the internet/social media groups puts up ALOT of resistance. The constitution doesn't say "free speech only applies to 18-21+".

I should also mention that I'm taking an online course to get ahead so that I don't have to take a science class in my senior year. It's called 'Environmental Studies' and requires you to watch the most boring individual talk in 10-minute increments, write about what you "learned", and take a quiz after all of this. It's the most mind-numbing thing I've ever had to do, and it's incredibly useless.

Luckily, I live in the age of AI and have no shame whatsoever in copy and pasting questions into ChatGPT.

Learning how to use AI should be a class in middle or high school

I'm not in the best mental state myself now, but I know one thing, I can still function working, but there's no way I would have been able to continue school had any of my mental health issues hit me then. Absolutely not. School exacerbates any existing mental health problems, while most jobs can provide a distraction/easy routine to slip into. Getting full night sleeps is also the most crucial aspect to improving mental health, and school refuses to even let kids get that. An adult working a job technically is free to look for a better job. But when society forces you to do something for over a decade, the responsibility is on them to make it as healthy as possible. School from 8 to 3 or 9 to 4 is lunacy. I literally set my hours from noon to 10 pm today and for the next few days. Someone mentioned "supporting evidence" there's tons of facts 3 clicks away about how school should start much later and how its damaging teenage sleep cycles and causing psychological problems as a result.

I always had a problem with staying awake while in middle school.

I suggested that for example instead of 8 semesters of GYM, have a course called "Fundamentals of internet use and safety" and another in "Basic banking and accounting" so everyone knows how to write checks/handle different kinds of money accounts/tax filing/budgeting..etc. not as electives but as core courses. 

Because you still need 10-11 hours of sleep at that age. Even if you don't get tired until 1 am, you'll need to sleep until at least 11 am. And that's the natural result of biological circadian rhythms that you don't have control over. You can't just change your sleeping pattern at will, nor "get used" to being sleep deprived. Hence why millions of adults take pills for insomnia. And this isn't just limited to school. Work hours should be more like 1-10 pm as well. I don't know came up with the crazy 8-4/9-5 as the "ideal" hours LOL. Speaking of which heading out to work now will likely be driving from 11 am to 11 pm straight, still easier than school.

Your mom is in her 60s and you're only 25?? Can somebody spell A-C-C-I-D-E-N-T...bet she's just as whiny and complain-y as YOU, loser OP...get off your soapbox and quit feeling sorry for yourself...