The State of the Forums or Down the Rabbit Hole - Chess Forums - Page 38

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#741

cat-astro-phic wrote:

Batgirl I hope you're here to rerail the train

That's beyond my meager powers.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#742

batgirl wrote:

llama47 wrote:

batgirl wrote:

llama47 wrote:

Lately it seems that mods aren't locking for it anymore.

I said a whole heck of a lot about religion a month or so ago, and it wasn't locked.

I have the notion mods don't even visit the Off Topic Forum (notice the guy who issued a warning did so while moving this thread (incorrectly, I might add) to Off Topic but hasn't returned.

In the main forums, the only moderation seems to be about cheating - which, if you stop to think about it, is irrational.

Yeah, it was lazy and stupid.

I don't mind locking cheating topics, because people rarely make good accusations.

There was a recent topic about winning more with white than black. I downloaded his (nearly) 2000 games and discovered he scored 50/50.

I re-ran the stats to only include games played this year, and he scored ~10% point better with black.

Then in one of the comments someone said they scored better with black. This person's chess.com account had a lot of games so I didn't have to download anything, all it took was a few clicks to discover he scored better with white.

This is how most cheating discussions are. "My 1300 rated opponent won 3 pieces after I played 3 blunders in a row, was he cheating?"

No, he wasn't cheating. Shutup.

Sure, accusations should be suppressed because, as you said, they're usually baseless. But if discussions about cheating are the only squashed ones, they aren't interested in moderated forums, just in hiding complaints about cheating from Google.

Oh, I see.

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#743

Google

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#744

Google doesn't catalogue all sites. I assume admins can choose to "hide" stuff.

Google itself also blacklists (for lack of a better word) sites.

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#745

Google

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#746

if you click Google, you'll see the Cheating Forum Club, but none of the posts. You'll see, however a lot of forum posts.

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#747

cat-astro-phic wrote:

Batgirl. repeating the word "google" isn't helping. Are you suggesting you cannot say?

Those are hyperlinks.

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#748

At any rate, I'm sure chess.com doesn't want backdoor access to clubs. This makes sense. But they use that fact to hide cheating discussions from the public. They could have just as easily created a moderated Cheating Forum in the forums, but chose the clandestine road for a reason.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#749

batgirl wrote:

At any rate, I'm sure chess.com doesn't want backdoor access to clubs. This makes sense. But they use that fact to hide cheating discussions from the public. They could have just as easily created a moderated Cheating Forum in the forums, but chose the clandestine road for a reason.

At the same time, they've invested more than any other site into cheat detection. A sisyphean task tackled admirably.

Gomer_Pyle

Jun 16, 2021

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#750

It looks like the mods aren't checking the Books & Equipment forum either. The nonsense is spreading to there. It was one of the last bastions of sanity on this site and my favorite forum.

What are the implications of Nikhil Kamath's cheating scandal on the stock market and beyond

batgirl

Jun 16, 2021

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#751

I think certain topics such as politics and religion are too emotional for many people and disallowing those discussions simplified matters for management plus avoided the danger of chess.com being perceived as un uninviting place. Personally, I think there should be moderated Off Forums just for those topics.

SeniorPatzer

Jun 16, 2021

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#752

Optimissed, was that Charbis Bay?

Also, that was not a reporter who asked Joe Biden how the G7 Summit was going. She was a restaurant patron.

Look at the video on Twitter again.

Gomer_Pyle

Jun 16, 2021

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#753

Maybe I should replace my avatar. I took it down when I was completely fed up with this place. Now I'm only mostly fed up.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#754

batgirl wrote:

I think certain topics such as politics and religion are too emotional for many people and disallowing those discussions simplified matters for management plus avoided the danger of chess.com being perceived as un uninviting place. Personally, I think there should be moderated Off Forums just for those topics.

An angle I hadn't though of was how disallowing adult topics (like politics and religion) was a factor in driving adults out and allowing kids to proliferate.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#755

cat-astro-phic wrote:

As an obvious aside: Is it just me or does anyone else start to picture members here looking like their profile pic? I picture Batgirl as a skinny red head with a knife in her back and LLama as a furry camel looking critter. BTW I am not a cat

I don't do this, but it sounds interesting

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#756

Yeah, allowing them may not be for the better, but I'd never considered that idea before.

For example, imagine if they gave a mute to people without warning if they posted 5 one word messages in a row. Kids do garbage stuff like that all the time.

I had a post (and screenshot) a year or so ago about how sometimes they didn't even use words. It could be just one letter or an emoji.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#757

cat-astro-phic wrote:

Then I look at their profile page and say nah

Yeah. You can tell pretty quickly when it's a kid.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#758

Kids are pretty good.

I lost to a 13 year old girl in an OTB tournament game. The fact that she's female and 13 didn't bother me. She was rated higher and she played better than me.

But when I mentioned it to my brother he was shocked

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#759

The one I (nearly) lost sleep over was this POS who beat me... I can't give details or it might reveal my name... let's just say in the same way that "13 year old female" leads to certain assumptions, he had things associated with him that'd make non-players think he was a genius.

But I was pissed because he was clearly worse than me.

llama47

Jun 16, 2021

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#760

cat-astro-phic wrote:

Well, time for my nightly medicinal beverage. Enjoyed the evening here for a change. Thanks to all (most) who participated. Have a good night.

g'night