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Eventually I'm filled with beautiful love , beautiful energy . I feel so much that I want to help people . Have such a positive energy .
Like it could lift me off my feet . It's so pure . So beautiful . It's not about anything or anyone . It's absolutely unconditional .
Just I want to help . I love !
And I feel it is me . I feel that love is who I inherently am.
And I see this love within me . I see it when I care about others . When I accept others . When I want the best for them .
And I know . I know . Whatever Nikprit or you say that this love is a beautiful thing and it's a part of who we are . Perhaps all of who we are in truth .
And I know SA whatever you think that this love couldn't be more beautiful . And if it is then God sure will not inflict suffering on anyone or anything . I sure wouldn't .
By the way I know everyone else has this love too . This perfect love . I see it in them too
You're 'fiddlin' with what's True, 'Tom'.. 1st off - 'Jesus' was not a child, when He gave up His own {physical} life, of his own volition.
And, to compare, 'J.C.' as being 'put-to-death'.. by those who 'killed babies' {whether under the instruction, by 'God' or Not, in the 'Old Testament'}, Isn't the same moral 'equation' if-you-will. 0:
Ps. As for the concept, I've since come around to, of what I term, 'Restricted, human-free-will' - Whether that Is or is Not, a factor in your own 'disbelief' ..{and Many others!?} ..I'll leave that to 'JC' to Judge. 0:
My friend I give up . Good luck with your Christianity sir . I sincerely hope it brings you and those around you peace and contentment .
It's not for me and I'm not willing to discuss it .
It's plain gobbledygook .
to me it's like having a debate about whether or not the moon is made of cheese. I guess it's interesting to those that have a feeling that there may be a divine being but I've passed that point.
For me it's wasted air.
what interests me though is what does it mean that there isn't a God?
That truly everything in the world is a natural thing.
My own feeling is that what it means is there is no true will or intelligence. All there is is coincidence.
And yet it's clear that there is design involved when people are focussed upon. I mean we can recognise a truth can't we?
Perhaps if free will has any meaning at all then it's in this sense. That the universe if you like, or life, is capable of seeing order and equality and inequality.
I sometimes wonder if it's possible to know something is unfair and just not care.
A bit like Aristotle arguing with Plato saying that it's possible to know something is wrong and to do it anyway.
I just want to say to everyone and anyone that might stumble across my thread have a good day. And you too Sa.
Nikprit I read you talking about your frustation that people haven't an open mind.
Just to clarify you didn't use those words and I'm sorry about that.
Anyway the point I wanted to make is that you've said that you've accepted that God doesn't exist.
So aren't you in the same position really?
you know life is tough enough. We don't need to make things harder for each other guys.
Anyway back to observing.
You are not putting him down, you are stating what you believe in contrast to what he believes.
There is nothing wrong with that Thomas.
People often collapse the two, what I am is what I believe. However, a lot of people can see past a belief system & still have empathy for the other.
like it. You know Nikprit it's really lovely to hear your gentle empathy and clear wisdom this morning. Have a good day and thanks.
I'm sorry I misquoted you again but at least I admitted it!
'Nikprit' was correct, in that there's No need to apologize to Me, for your denial of a {super} sentient, God. - Whether or not, you'll one day stubbornly, do the same, with having offended His sensibilities, {assuming He was somewhat insulted}.. Is Another matter!?
Ps. If, you can picture 'energy' as possessing Both an intelligence and omnipresence, simultaneously; And, keep an 'Open mind'.. that-that 'surrounding' {'good vibes'}, 'Energy' - Just Might be, what others, call 'God's metaphorical 'footprint' - Then perhaps, we're Not as far apart, as what otherwise, would Seem to be the case! 0:

SA god's quote makes him sound a little conceited .
Are you aware that people like Emily Pankhurst gave their lives for the benefit of others . Presumably that's a bit like god's wonderful thinking .
But you'll say oh but he gave his child . You know child sacrifice was very popular at one time in the name of God.
Hardly makes the person parent of the year !