We can eliminate poverty in the USA

Are you always this angry Den?

Lucky your forebearers never needed help from their neighbors to get through hard times

Working for prosperity can be the new benchmark,for incentive. People have a right to a living basic salary. That's the way it will be more and more in the 21st and 22nd centuries. We will shortly be living in a country where only 40% unemployment will be good. Normally it will be much higher.

Robots,and AI technology will be running our economy.

Im actually a very happy person. I just like to unload on random strangers that have ridiculous ideas and gang up on me. Its very theraputic.

getting help from your neighbors is NOT what we are talking about here. We are talking about supporting those that do not want to help out of the goodnes of our hearts until it becomes a generational way of life to the point that nobody feels any inclination to contribute anymore and then the government steps in and takes from you what you earned and gives it to them. That is what we are talking about.

I didn't ask you if you are unhappy, but whether you are always this angry.

Im not angry, dude.

You sure sound angry, dude.

Or to put it another way, how do you come across when you are angry?

your perception is not my responsibility. I've explained myself all I'm going to. back to the subject please.

It's hard to do nothing when you're able. The argument that too many people will do nothing if given the opportunity is ridiculous. For every one person who doesn't want to do anything that our taxes would support in a socialist system, there would be thousands who would want to do something. And people are disabled and can't work both for physical reasons and for emotional reasons. People go through bad periods in life even though they're physically fit. Empathy should be taught immediately in households and schools, no doubt.

Denner90 wrote: your perception is not my responsibility. I've explained myself all I'm going to. back to the subject please.

Okey doke.

Senior's idea bears resemblance to another proposed by British activist George Monbiot, who calls it the Citizen's Income. The CI is set at a level that enables one to live at a decent level and it isn't means-tested, everyone gets the CI, even rich people.

This approach would transform society, people would no longer be forced to work for unscrupulous employers but could pick and choose instead. Employers, on the other hand, would no longer have the luxury of being able to simply pick someone off a pile but would have to attract employees. This already happens at the high-end of the job market, in the skilled sector, it would enforce this same approach across the board.

The CI would not remove the incentive to work either, because anything you earn through employment is supplemental to the Citizen's Income.

WHAT THE HECK HAS THIS GO TO DO WITH CHESS?

Nothing. What part of "Off-Topic" don't you understand?

lol

the basic fundamental tenet of taking from one at the point of a gun and giving to another is what I have a problem with. I understand that there are basic services that the government is responsible for and I won't list them all and that is the purpose of taxes. Programs like SS, medicaid/medicare, EBT, WIC and all the others are already in place to help the needy, disabled and down and out. But enough is enough. The system is corrupt and abused to the point of breaking, which if anyone cares to research is exactly the aim of the socialists. Cloward and Piven.

Hell for all I know you all are a bunch of socialists and want to collapse the system. I might as well talk to my cat about this. Im out. Go ahead and curse me all you want. Oh and F YOU Wolfbird; saggy wannabe hippies are the perfect caricature for the BernieHillary crowd.

What a thoroughly charming young man!

Ghostliner wrote:

Denner90 wrote: your perception is not my responsibility. I've explained myself all I'm going to. back to the subject please.

Okey doke.

Senior's idea bears resemblance to another proposed by British activist George Monbiot, who calls it the Citizen's Income. The CI is set at a level that enables one to live at a decent level and it isn't means-tested, everyone gets the CI, even rich people.

This approach would transform society, people would no longer be forced to work for unscrupulous employers but could pick and choose instead. Employers, on the other hand, would no longer have the luxury of being able to simply pick someone off a pile but would have to attract employees. This already happens at the high-end of the job market, in the skilled sector, it would enforce this same approach across the board.

Correct. Prosperity is the incentive not living.