what are we? (8 til 9 am)

12 pm 02 Paris Meridian Time ! game over ! 50 euros pl., next rendez vous tomorrow you have nothing ; feel better, but it will take time !!!!!

Tom, you are not meditating. You must first find an ongoing treatment for your OCD, it's not something that goes away by itself. It's impossible to meditate with OCD, that's for sure.

Too much online activity is not good for anyone. I feel it myself, right now. So I'm off to do something else. Have a nice day.

tomtrytostay wrote:

So after that I came to the point I am at now where I am no longer compulsive and no longer obsessive . I actually am mindful and I believe I'm more or less in a healthy state of mind .I have about ten pages I've kept which summarise what I learner but it all can be captured simply as when you experience a choice whether or not to solve a problem (mentally I mean) choose not to solve . Okay Estren there's where I'm up to in terms of how I document my experience in terms of seeing what's happening with a view to being healthy .Now to describe what's going on in terms of my documenting in relation to what we are and this thread .

Toms next thread will be "How I cured my OCD"

Delusional

Denial

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a form of anxiety disorder that is characterized by unwanted and uncontrollable thoughts and ritualized, repetitive behaviors a person feels compelled to perform. If a person has OCD they most likely recognize the fact that their obsessive thoughts and behaviors are irrational, yet find themselves unable to resists them. People with OCD experience obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviors that become so excessive they interfere with their daily lives. Despite their best efforts, they cannot seem to cease. Fortunately, with appropriate types of treatments people can live with OCD and regain control of their lives.

Toms claim he is now in a healthy state of mind, no longer obsessive or compulsive. Never once does he acknowledge he has a disorder.

Please adhere to toms only rule and post between 8 and 9.

Only tom is allowed to break this rule because his most recent observation is something we can't live without.

FRENCHBASHER wrote:

better being interrupted by thoughts than by emptyness just writing

You're just writing nonsense. Often the thoughts are useless, counter-productive.

The mind and body benifits from shutting down these uncontrollable thoughts, enters a state of consciousness that enables the mind (later, after a session) to reach a greater understanding of themselves.

Basher, go back to insulting with your brand of gibberish and forget about matters you have no knowledge of.

Despite, my once adopted, Christian- based beliefs & spoutings; I have to admit, that 'Tom' has achieved, a noticeably Higher level of existential 'Love' & an apparent 'truce' with our 'veil-of-tears' than I.

.. And, aside from a long-term, Not 'mixing' all-that-well socially, with Most other people; {a concept, not all-that-different, than an unexercised muscle}; I Do plead guilty, to the following; To go with my noticeably problematical, economic status. And, I don't even live in 'Venezuela'.. {one of the world's newer, economic 'basket cases'!}.

.. Explanatory pic-insertion, will be appearing, soon!  0:

I thought you were British!

Re. 'Tom's repeating/ latest 'take'; As he sees, his own Non-reality.

For myself; I'm interpreting that, as 'Tom's Primary method of Coping! ..With, All the negatives, in his Own Life. Even if, {of lesser importance}; Once-to-several times removed, from his 'Up- Close/ day-to-day, personal experience!

For myself; I have 2 main ways, of coping. #1. The 'Chinese' proverb -'This Too, Shall Pass! ..{with its implied meaning, of 'conditions, will eventually get Better!} -- And, #2. Surfing, on the Web; Including, listening to 'Classical music'... and making myself aware, {daily}.. in a 'news' reading & listening sense; That there are Many people in-the-world; Presumably, worse off, overall; Circumstantially!

Whether, they're dealing with it, as best they can; One likes to think so! .. Along with, the Higher {spiritual} Powers.. performing their assigned roles, as Faith responders, and rewarders!?

Its about time change the sweaty blue shirt in your avatar tom. It reeks.