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tomtrytostay
You know I don't feel right bringing my observing my internal world here . I'll start a separate thread to do that .
SonOfThunder2

Meaning?

tomtrytostay
Meaning here I'm just gonna chat about what we are .

In my other thread mindfulness I'll post what my mind tells me makes sense when I'm mindful .
tomtrytostay
I guess there are many aspects to what make us us . We can look at how a person thinks . What a person is . What a person values , what a person believes .
Catastrophy-Kitteh

trolls for the most part apparently.

The_Ghostess_Lola

Thomas,

Sometimes I get the feeling that you're a Let's Make a Deal door waiting for you to choose. And at the top of this door's elevator is an absolutely beautiful candlelit penthouse that looks like the cozy little cabin found in The Edge. A fire happily crackles as Emily plays from a clam-fanned speaker that's 100 years waiting to be invented.

What do you think you'll do when you get there ?....will you gaze out the floor to ceiling window w/ a masculine glass of rock-jagged scotch ?

If your future lies beyond 50 stories high ? Then call me and we'll do a topless clutch cannonball off the railing to the pool below....just to see what it's like to play all-in poker with the only thing we could ever really bet....our existence.

And if we live ? We can laff out loud together as we surface.

Promise me one thing tho', okay ? That we hit the water ?....'cuz it's all I would ever ask of you. After that, I'm totally free with letting destiny outplay our fate.

tomtrytostay
Ah . Thank you Ghostess . You are always a pleasure to read

I think I'm back on the trail now . I have a clearer idea of what interests me.

I'm going to come here when I have a thought I'd like to share about what it is that we are .
tomtrytostay
Right now the main thing that interests me is true love and angelic grace within people .

Does anyone else believe true love lasts forever ?
tomtrytostay
It's probably silly to ask questions . I'll just state how I feel
tomtrytostay
I think that you truly love someone when you see their absolute beauty . The beauty that is them. How they love . That kind of love lasts forever . I don't buy this true love can fade or die . I know that I'll always love my wife . Forever . No matter what she says or does
tomtrytostay
So I'm drifting through my day just being me . Like watching a movie really . Is this all we do really ? Just watch our lives playing out ?

We can't do anything different . For example I might see a pretty lady but I can't say can I kiss you ?! I'm married ! We all have our confines don't we .
The_Ghostess_Lola
tomtrytostay wrote:
Right now the main thing that interests me is true love and angelic grace within people .

Does anyone else believe true love lasts forever ?

I not only believe it....you could say I'm basically deluded by it....Embarassed.... 

SonOfThunder2

Undecided

tomtrytostay
Ghostess I don't accept its a delusion to believe that you can know that you'll always love someone . It's a beautiful and precious thing and it suggests to me that actually there is something about a person that is timeless and unchanging and I love that .

We are a couple of hopeless romantics aren't we ?
tomtrytostay
It's nice to see you Jon and I hope to see you a contributor to this thread . I intend to stay with this one but this time just keep it to conversation only . No more posting science or what I notice when I observe myself on this thread . Also this thread is about what we are , it's the overall truth I'd like to explore seeking for with people .
tomtrytostay
You know I talked to the guy that had ridiculed the lady for believing in God . I'd said previously that to believe in free will is a form of belief to and he'd argued no it's common sense . So I'd told him that actually when you think about it all we are is biological and chemical materials and really it makes sense that all our behaviour is a natural consequence of the reactions happening in our cells and so on .

He said to me that if that was the case we'd all act basically the same but of course that's untrue because the human being biological and chemical machine is incredibly complex and varies massively . Oh course genetic variation is a part of evolution .

Anyway I told him that hawking and Einstein both subscribe to the idea that I have that free will doesn't exist so I'm in some pretty good company .
tomtrytostay
I'm not absolutely sure about it to be honest but I think that's the case . Certainly we can see trends such as a religious family brings their child up to be a religious person in the main .

I wonder what would happen if a person had no conditioning whatsoever .

Maybe they would live like a simplistic beasts only caring to address their physical needs .
Chicken_Monster
tomtrytostay wrote:
Right now the main thing that interests me is true love and angelic grace within people .

Does anyone else believe true love lasts forever ?

Are you serious?

tomtrytostay
I really am cm . People say I'm crazy . That I live in a Disney world but believe me I know that I have a beautiful angel in my life that I truly love and always will
tomtrytostay
She's so kind and brave . So thoughtful and accepting . So graceful . So eloquent and so supportive . Loves life beautifully and is an honour to know .