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Charlotte

Enzymes beat RNA to it by about 3 million yearsSurprised

MyCowsCanFly

Big Bang...Who came first. Interesting juxtaposition. No sexual connotations I'm sure.

Nice to work the word "Juxtaposition" into a conversation. Sounds like something out of the Kama Sutra.

dunay
cabadenwurt wrote:

Well I don't claim to be a Science whiz but I gather that some people claim the Big Bang came first ( then the Chicken and then the Egg ).  

The big bang claims that the universe started as a big ball and than it exploded, but you need to reverse the laws of physics for that to happen.

dunay
Charlotte_212 wrote:

Enzymes beat RNA to it by about 3 million years

this means that you would have the enzymes and then the information to make them.

SirFelisCatus
dunay wrote:
cabadenwurt wrote:

Well I don't claim to be a Science whiz but I gather that some people claim the Big Bang came first ( then the Chicken and then the Egg ).  

The big bang claims that the universe started as a big ball and than it exploded, but you need to reverse the laws of physics for that to happen.

infinitesimal actually. a point where which all the space in the universe was bent inward towards. not exactly an explosion either and no need for the laws of physics to be reversed

HessianWarrior

The Idiots came first, then their doctors.

dunay
SirFelisCatus wrote:
dunay wrote:
cabadenwurt wrote:

Well I don't claim to be a Science whiz but I gather that some people claim the Big Bang came first ( then the Chicken and then the Egg ).  

The big bang claims that the universe started as a big ball and than it exploded, but you need to reverse the laws of physics for that to happen.

infinitesimal actually. a point where which all the space in the universe was bent inward towards. not exactly an explosion either and no need for the laws of physics to be reversed

a black hole is very dense and does not "explode" outward. if all the mater in the universe was packed you would need to reverse the laws of physics.

the big picture says that if you leave some hydrogen out with enough time you get human.

SirFelisCatus

you're scaring me now dude

dunay

what is so scary about me?

SirFelisCatus

though your average black hole may have a conceivably infinite mass density. an universal "singularity" is not quite the same thing. it would have,very literally, an infinite mass and energy density. after all, we are talking about a singularity who's constituents are the entire infinite universe. there is a very good chance that such a singularity cannot exist in a state for more than just an instant before unfolding uniformly,like a flower, at a velocity -greater- than that of light. there is no reversing the laws of physics

HessianWarrior

In the beginning there were the Idiots who thought they knew everything, then their doctors cuffed them and put them in a looney bin.

dunay

even if you are correct somehow, how would get this in the first place?

SirFelisCatus

not sure what u mean

(note, things can travel faster than light,,,just not through space) lol

HessianWarrior
dunay wrote:

even if you are correct somehow, how would get this in the first place?

And you  are trying to say?

SirFelisCatus

everything collapses becomes a singularity and the singularity unfolds again. etc.. like a heart beat lol.. nothing ever really exists or ceases to exist. existence and non-existence are complimentary ideas. one being the frame of reference for the other and neither distinguishable without the other lol

HessianWarrior
SirFelisCatus wrote:

not sure what u mean

(note, things can travel faster than light,,,just not through space) lol

Who the hell needed Einstein when you two clowns got it all figured out.

SirFelisCatus

ancient wisdom,comrade ninja

HessianWarrior
SirFelisCatus wrote:

ancient wisdom,comrade ninja

One of you guys is 14 years old and the other one is a cat with a bow tie and a top hat, and yet you two guys have the answers to the universe.

SirFelisCatus

i just sell it dude,i dont manufacture it

HessianWarrior
SirFelisCatus wrote:

i just sell it dude,i dont manufacture it


Okay, who or what manufactured all the atoms (mass) of the universe to fit your guys theories? The atoms came before the OP's alphabet soup question in post #1.