varelse1 wrote:
einstein99 wrote:
___________________
Genetic clocks are bogus. Due to the high mutational variability rate on the mitochondrial genome, one can come up with any timeline one wants.
Okay.
But you still haven't explained why that "anything" should happen to match the fossil record so precisely.
___________________________
That'anything' , can be an MRCA of 12,000 years for humans, which experiments have shown to be the case.
Betrothel was like marriage in the old Jewish days. Serious stuff! If you messed around, it was like breaking marriage vows.
Thornton's experiments in no way disproves irreducible complexity, neither does it show evolution of ligand receptor sites to match various evolving proteins. These are all assumptions.
I still like his latest experiment where he uses the phrase
'Historical cintingencies', meaning dumb*as luck!😭
Who wrote that article anyway, proteins are neither dead or alive as the article states. The writer thought Thornton was storing proteins that were alive, how silly!😉
Hey 99, why do you think it is that the average human and chimp proteins of about 450 amino acids are identical except two amino acids?
Two drafts of an image of him big sky-primate, perhaps?
It seems like you were implying something PW. by mentioning the lab, were you?😕
Elroch wrote:
Hey 99, why do you think it is that the average human and chimp proteins of about 450 amino acids are identical except two amino acids?
Two drafts of an image of him big sky-primate, perhaps?
----------------------
Better question Elroch. Where do 450 amino acid proteins come from in the first place? 😕
Hint: Think Cambrian!😲
.... Over 50 similar genes in vocalizing birds and humans, with similar motor and connective neural pathways, but none of these genes or specialized systems found in non vocalizing birds or non human primates.
Sort of like the opsin or prestin genes spread out all over different loci throughout the animal kingdom.
Or the melanocorticotropin, or carotenoid genes being used for various creatures for all kinds of purposes throughout the animal world.
After a while even the hard of heart will have to admit that all these epicycles of commonly .... genes, systems, characteristics, and complex features,...
It really looks like you are arguing common decent while only changing the name to common design.
I think you have invented the "Reverse Straw Man Argument."
Damn it! I was really pulling for you on this one but it seems the Reverse Straw Man has been around for a while:
http://ocham.blogspot.ca/2010/09/reverse-straw-man.html
I think a bald number like an average of two different amino acids in an average protein of 450 amino acids is not very intuitive, so here what that sort of difference looks like is illustrated with a string of characters of length 435. THIS is how similar coding DNA in humans and chimpanzees is. A trophy is available for the first person to find the two differences.
Version A:
HAMLET: To be, or not to be--that is the question:
After reading that, how do we explain Robert Ludlum?
Virgin birth - for those who have questions about Mary: we cannot entirely rule out the possibility. There are several means of conceiving a viable embryo without male/female contact. Rare but possible. See also: pathenogenesis, gynogenesis and hybridogenesis. It would indeed be rare for an XXY human female to produce an XX or XY offspring through parthenogenesis. There are many good reasons why this is very unlikely but we have only this one report out of many billions of examples.
Every rare once in awhile (when I have absolutely nothing better to do), I give thought to "he-who-hath-a-sex-doll-avatar".
I see that he is online at this site, even today. And I know that he is lurking in the shadows, reading this with drooling lips and trembling hands.
Elroch - The single hyphen verses the double hypen in line 6. Do I win?
oops, I forgot to mewntion the double space after line 1 in the first version but single space in the second.
After reading that, how do we explain Robert Ludlum?
Err, not sure. But I did watch The Bourne Legacy last night. Pretty good.
It seems like you were implying something PW. by mentioning the lab, were you?😕
No. I believe I already said so. The green screen for the lab was not my concern (although it did seem odd). The content of what she had said, and whatever else I posted in that regard, is all that concerned me.
From my research, I am even more convinced than ever that you are just one of many theists whom I've met over the years who sounds like a scientist (laws of thermodynamics, entropy, chaos, the eye requires a designer, science says a bumble bee can't fly, etc.) but isn't.
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Was Mary marrried at the time?
Possibly only engaged:
Book of Matthew:
18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[a]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.
25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.