@ponz, i don't think that you can demolish somebody in a forum.
Why science vs religion?
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Sorry guys but i am going to be very busy for weeks. I am glad people are posting but I won't get to any of this for awhile. But just a quick comment on the last post just because something has practical usage does not mean it is true. Santa Clause has practical uses if he keeps your kid/kids in line that does not make him true.
ponz111 wrote:
When someone with very bad grammer and terrible spelling and no understanding of logic starts talking about string theory and Newton and "scientists have faith" you can be sure he is talking bull to try and persuade others how knowlegable and intelligent he is so they will believe whatever point or points he is trying to make.
When someone is completely demolished in another forum and comes to a general forum where he will not be criticed as well or as much this indicates something also.
Nope if i was trying to convince you that I was intelligent then I would speak intelligently. I am trying to show two things: 1 I do not believe a logical argument exists. A logical argument has to be based a true statement. No statement can be shown to be true absolutely. The degree in whith the statement is true is subjective, it can be believed that the assumption has little impact on the argument or it can be believed that all arguments are based on assumption/beliefs that can in no way be shown to be true. That is to say I don't believe a logical argument exists. Neither do I believe that knowledge exists and less I understand that this conclusion makes me an idiot. I accepted that all humanity is unintelligent long ago.
Furthermore if you think a concept is weak just because the grammar/ writing is weak then I would claim you are falling victim to ad hominim. My writing is very intentionally simple and i really don't care about the grammar,
Why science vs religion?
Why in a chess forum ?
Science wins because religion always leads to politics.
Irontiger wrote:
Why science vs religion?
Why in a chess forum ?
He wrote in Open Discussion which is meant for such subjects. The people there were very critical of his reasoning ability and this may be why he posted here instead.
{if you cannot stand the heat....]
Mersaphe wrote:
Science is humans trying to explain the universe
Religion is God telling us how the universe was formed
I'd rather believe God who is the holiest authority than try to figure out things by myself
...and this is how we got roughly 500 years wasted during the Middle ages, when resources were used for theological debate and cathedral construction. After all, no need to figure out the laws of physics, all is in one single book ! But oh sure, we are much more advanced about the angels' sex, if they exist.
TalsKnight wrote:
Science is simply discovering how God has designed the universe to sustain human life, its the arrogance of man to take credit for it.
Man does not take credit for the design of the universe - so no arrogance there.
Belief in a god is one thing, subscribing to a religion is completely different. Although I don't believe in a god, I understand why people do. How people pick a religion is beyond me. What selection process do you follow? How did you rule the others out? If you feel the touch of the Christian God, why don't people in Afghanistan feel his touch? Why do they feel the touch of Islam?
netzach wrote:
Science wins because religion always leads to politics.
Religion wins 'cause science always leads to explosions.
ponz111 wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Why science vs religion?
Why in a chess forum ?
He wrote in Open Discussion which is meant for such subjects. The people there were very critical of his reasoning ability and this may be why he posted here instead.
{if you cannot stand the heat....]
I don't know how to do much on a computer. There are enough people on here to be talking to keep me interested. If you want to put it in open forum go ahead. This is good enough for me. I am more interested in responses than the argument really.
trysts wrote:
bildotheodlib1001 wrote:
Capital T truths don't exist or have yet to de unearthed by humanity that is my whole point. Nothing can be irrefutably proven simply believed.
I exist. That's irrefutably true. 2 + 2 = 4 is irrefutable. There are both empirical irrefutable truths and conceptual irrefutable truths. They are self-evident truths.
In the system of mathematics that is true that is in that system it is true now alls you have to do is show that the mathematical system is true. Good luck. U existing is highly subjective. Especially if a person subscribes to the notion that you don't have a soul. Then I exist for a very brief time and don't exist for a very very long portion of time.
bildotheodlib1001 You know very well discussion of religion and politics should go in the Open Forum. You went there yourself and the people there are very good at debate, logic, etc. They told you that you had no real idea what you were writing about and your writings were full of logical fallacies and then you decided to come here.
They suggested you need to get schoolings in logic and logical fallacies.
Also, you need schooling in science as you seem to have no idea how science actually works. Please go back to Open Discussion and learn something.
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netzach wrote:
Science wins because religion always leads to politics.
How lucky science NEVER leads to politics!
Lol
[Please restrict discussion of religion to the Open Discussion group - mod.
http://www.chess.com/groups/home/open-discussion ]
Jebus discovered science.