Will Mitt Romney get Drafted ???

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For many of us looking at it from the outside the American system is quite interesting and also a bit mysterious. Mitt Romney gave a speech today where he seemed to try to destroy Trump. So a question that comes to mind is could Romney be drafted at the Republican convention ? 

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I think it's more likely he pushes for one of the other two big contenders (Rubio or Cruz) to be drafted. Or he could go totally rogue and run an independent campaign just to screw Trump over. And then maybe Sanders does the same. And then that opens a door for Bloomberg's independent run. And then after the ensuing chaos does damage to both parties, we finally get some real discussion going about instituting instant runoff voting.

One can always hope.

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One other thing that keeps coming up is that if Trump gets squeezed out of the Republican party he might pull a Ross Perrot and finance himself as an independent. 

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Thanks for the post and for the info BlargDragon.

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He totally would do that. His ego won't allow for anything less. As I recall, he already said he might, then said he wouldn't, then threatened to, then promised he wouldn't--in the span of a few months.

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Romney is being paid to speak out by big money. He will enter the race if Marco flubs Florida. The point is just to drain delegates from Trump in order to have a brokered election which will preserve the corporate elites that run the Republican party.

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Yeah, I've got no illusions about his actions being altruistic or of noble intent. Sometimes your foe's objectives just happen to align with your own.

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Thanks for the posts.   ---   One thing that I have heard recently is that several polls say that Mrs Clinton would beat Trump in a general election. Therefore are the Republicans not handing the White House to the Democrats if Trump is chosen to run for President ? 

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I think a few things are at play there. For one, I think some people simply disregard the polls. They think they're flawed, or that enough will change between now and election day that Trump will have a chance.

Assuming the polls are correct, I think another thing at play is that while the majority agree Trump is a bad idea, that same majority can't agree on what they should do instead, and the reason for disagreeing is often egotistical (as in, a candidate thinks they best way to oppose Trump is to support themselves instead). Without that agreement, there's no majority, and so the plurality--those supporting Trump--get to continue on.

The third problem is that even if people within the Republican party knew what to do, they're too cowardly to do it. They're afraid of what they might lose in the process if they end up on the losing side of things, or if the Republican party ends up fractured or significantly weakened as a result of infighting.

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Thanks for the post BlargDragon. So if the party bosses don't like Trump at all then Romney's idea of sneaking in late and going for a draft at the Republican convention might work after all   lol.

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Another theory out there is that the Democrats could improve their outlook by putting Mrs Clinton and Senator Sanders on the same ticket. Mrs Clinton would run for President and Sanders for VP ( he is getting on a bit after all   lol ). 

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It seems that investors prefer Mrs Clinton to Trump based on what a panel of experts was saying today on CNBC. With Mrs Clinton they know what to expect whereas Trump is too much of a loose cannon ( he even wants to limit foreign trade ). 

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Trump's a huge loose cannon and has zero appreciation for a lot of the things the United States has going. He wants to slap enormous tariffs all over stuff, for one, which does nothing but isolate the United States economically as other nations fill our niches. Trade is about so much more than the economy, too; many people lack an appreciation for the concept of soft power: power exercised through being a world leader, through economic leverage, through cultural influence. We represent a plurality of the world economy (even debatable if you count the European Union as a whole), but not a majority, and much of that economic status is because of the momentum we use to remain there. It's easier to stay at the top than to climb there.

And you're right, there are many more wildcards that come with Trump. Trying new ideas is absolutely a good idea, but you need a certain level of confidence that someone's not going to steal or wreck your car before you hand them the keys.

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Thanks for the post BlargDragon. Trump reminds a lot of another loud - mouth that also used to be on TV and also tried to get into politics years ago --- Pat Buchanan. He was a real phony too. I remember he was blabbing on and on about the need to buy American products first but then when he got into his car to drive off he owned a Mercedes ( Cadillacs and Continentals were not good enough for him   lol ). 

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I just happened to be over on Youtube and noticed a recent clip from the Jimmy Kimmel Live program where he had Romney as a guest. It seems that Romney is very serious about pushing Trump out of the race but Romney is not saying much about any draft - movement for himself. 

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The Democrates on the other hand could probably do themselves a big favour by putting Senator Sanders and Mrs Clinton on the same ticket. Sanders would be over 80 years old at the end of a 2cnd term as President, perhaps a bit old to have his finger on the button. Mrs Clinton might be okay as the first female to be President and Sanders could be her VP ( & how about Bill Clinton as Secretary of State ? ). 

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