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WW2 was like really bad because a lot of Jews got into internment camps and were tortured. The Nazis used poison, flamethrowers, and they cut off all the hair of the Jews and stripped them.(they didn't rape them) That war was really bad and I hope that there would never be a WW3. Otherwise, the world would die!
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"They didn't rape them" !

Oh..thats okay then ! I'm glad to see a young person has some understanding of what happened there but l'm afraid it was much much worse.And not only for Jews.The Nazis went after anyone who wasn't their own kind....blacks,gypsies,the disabled...anyone.

 

Its all very interesting and exciting learning about WW2....but most of it is pure horror.


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no, i wouldn't spend those hours on video games. i heard that some jews were hung by their hands, and nazis put hosed in their mouths and sprayed H2O into their mouths until their stomachs burst and they died.
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For Starters: 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/themes/conflict_and_war/world_war_ii/default.stm


If you haven't read it yet, "Night" by Elie Wiesel is good (we had to read it in school).
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i just did reaserch on the book, and it seems to be similar to "the diary of anne frank" we had to read that in our school
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dreamer wrote: Oh, of course amarica want to help . America have always salvation - like Iraq! We will see...

what do you mean? i don't understand your grammar.


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calvinhobbesliker wrote: i just did reaserch on the book, and it seems to be similar to "the diary of anne frank" we had to read that in our school

I 'm sure they are similar.

 

Check out that link. I found it interesting to read articles that were written during the war. I like BBC because it gives you a non-american perspective. 


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what's wrong with an american perspective?
Avatar of Checkers4Me

There is nothing wrong with an American perspective. To be truly knowledgeable, one should see multiple perspectives about an issue. This will help you in your debates as well.

 

Plus, the war was fought in Europe (among other places), so it makes sense to also read their perspective of the war. 


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  "what's wrong with an american perspective?"

It is good to see things from more than one angle, like learning another language can help people better understand their first language.

 

One thing I will say about WW2 is that the Nazis gained power in part because of the harsh conditions of the Treaty of Versailles which ended WW1, and that Japan might not have been industrialized by 1941 if an American captain had not fought his way into a Japanese harbor to buy silk.


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the war was fought in europe, the pacific and norh africa. one advantage the americans had was that our country was safe from invasion, so the only civilians that died were at pearl harbor and on ships sending supplies to allies
Avatar of Checkers4Me

We also had great manufacturing ability.

 

When you get the chance, rent "Red Dawn". An invasion is possible (according to the movie) 


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invision is always possible, but it didn't happen. actually, we threw jap-americans in internment camps because we thought they were going to help japs invade west coast
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calvinhobbesliker wrote: invision is always possible, but it didn't happen. actually, we threw jap-americans in internment camps because we thought they were going to help japs invade west coast

 I understand, but we were not safe from invasion. safe from invasion is different than not being invaded. I believe there were plans to invade the US. by the Germans.


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well, we were less likely to be invaded or bombed than many other countries
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calvinhobbesliker wrote: what's wrong with an american perspective?

 Absolutely nothing provided that perspective actually reflects the truth of the matter.

 

It is often thought by Americans that they "saved" the rest of the world and won the war single handedly. That may well be true in the Pacific where the USA did indeed shoulder the largest part of the burden. However, it has to be remembered that Japan was responding to what it perceived to be US aggression. Right or wrong, the Japanese considered the USA to be responsible for the attack on Pearl harbour while the USA considered that the sanctions it had imposed were intended to help China.

 

More controversial (and annoying for Europeans) is the view that the USA came to Europe and saved us from the Germans. This may come as a bit of a shock to you but Germany went to war with the USA, the USA did not come to Europe to save us as protector of freedom or some such nonsense. In fact there is good reason to believe that if Hitler had not been stupid enough to declare war on the USA after Pearl Harbour the USA would not have become involved in Europe at all. The USA rendered invaluable aid to us Europeans and we are very grateful but we had already been fighting for over two years before your troops arrived.

 

The other part that is often hard for Americans to understand is that in the end the contribution of Britain, the USA and many other nations was largely irrelevant in Europe compared to the Soviet contribution. If Russia (the USSR only really started fighting back effectively when Stalin sidelined communist ideals and turned the war into a fight to save Mother Russia) had fought on her own then Germany would have been defeated but it would have taken longer. In effect, we in Britain delayed Hitler's attack on the USSR and the allies (Britain, USA etc.) then shortened the war in Europe, we did not win it. The honour of victory in Europe must go to the Russian people.

 

So two victors in WWII. The USA in the Pacific and the USSR in Europe. 


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calvinhobbesliker wrote: well, we were less likely to be invaded or bombed than many other countries

It is interesting to note that Messerschmitt was building a bomber intended to bomb New York. The prototype was flow to within sight of New York late in 1944. With a little more backing and resources it is possible the Germans could have dropped the first atomic bomb no New York. 


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Ilikelamborghinis wrote: WW2 was like really bad...

I've read a lot of descriptive accounts covering WW2 but I have never heard it described as 'like really bad'.  Masterful understatment!

 

 


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Okay, if all you Yanks and Brits are done, here's how we were affected. When the war began, we were promised independence by the Brits after the war. Lord Linlithgow went and declared that we were belligerents on the side of the Allies, even without consulting us. Most Indians were against Fascism, but our independence was more important to us. Indian soldiers in the British Indian Army were shipped off to fight someone else's war. Of course, we had people like Subhash Chandra Bose, who realised the maxim that an enemy's enemy is a friend, and escaped to Germany to get help from Hitler, where he got the cold shoulder. He then went to Japan, who were more helpful, and aided the Indian National Army in the Arakkan Campaign, which would have succeeded, but for Truman's bomb. the Yanks were, of course, against us, and the promise of independence was soon forgotten by the Brits, but we fought on and got our freedom nonetheless.
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ajachi wrote: ...we were promised independence by the Brits after the war...

End of WW2 1945

Indian Independance 1947.

 

Looks like a promise kept to me!


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