Auto-resign.. Can this be turned off?

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Kenralambra

I usually play on my free time and everyday, I consider my trip going to work and back home as my free time. But along my way, there are areas where data connection is just so weak. multiple times already I get lost because of getting stuck at "auto-resign" because I just got disconnected. Is there a way to remove that auto-resignation setting? I can't seem to find it in the settings if there is. Please help. Thanks!

notmtwain
Kenralambra wrote:
I usually play on my free time and everyday, I consider my trip going to work and back home as my free time. But along my way, there are areas where data connection is just so weak. multiple times already I get lost because of getting stuck at "auto-resign" because I just got disconnected. Is there a way to remove that auto-resignation setting? I can't seem to find it in the settings if there is. Please help. Thanks!

It is not a settings issue. It happens because you disconnect/ lose your connection too often.

Try figuring out where your connection is weak and just don't play while you are there.

Kenralambra

Oh.. But length of games vary and sometimes, just like my last game, we're closing of in the ending with my opponent with 17 seconds and he was trying to force draw by repetition. But anyway, since it is not a settings issue, I'd maybe just play at home starting today.

Kenralambra

well, I just hope the auto-resign time duration could be lengthened like maybe until 5 minutes to give time, like me, to reconnect. Sometimes, it's during those good games that this happens.

notmtwain
Kenralambra wrote:

well, I just hope the auto-resign time duration could be lengthened like maybe until 5 minutes to give time, like me, to reconnect. Sometimes, it's during those good games that this happens.

They count how often you disconnect.  Recently, they changed it to only count your last 20 games. (https://www.chess.com/blog/News/9-7-18-dev-update)

We don't know what the number or percentage is that triggers the auto-resign but once you are above it, your game is resigned for you every time you disconnect... Immediately.

JNM37

Auto-resign is good. It prevents other players from using disconnection as an excuse or way to think longer than the agreed time control and/or giving players a way or excuse to cheat. And it also prevents obnoxious players from disconnecting, making you wait longer to deliver the checkmate, etc.

JNM37

By the way, I understand that the auto-resign duration is (or was) based on time control you play. The shorter the time control, the shorter the auto-resign duration is. I liked it that way in my previous account.

ericcrook

It should just let the clock tick down....  they can win on clock, why even have an auto-resign on disconnect feature?

jetoba
ericcrook wrote:

It should just let the clock tick down....  they can win on clock, why even have an auto-resign on disconnect feature?

There are still the obnoxious players JNM37 referred to that would simply disconnect and let their clock run to make there opponent sit until their time runs out (while they go make a sandwich or do some other activity). The US Chess rulebook explicitly considers such behavior to be unsportsmanlike (18G1) and allows the TD to adjudicate the game.

ericcrook

What's the difference between just leaving the window up and making a sandwich?

TankStars6
ericcrook wrote:

What's the difference between just leaving the window up and making a sandwich?

huh

jetoba
ericcrook wrote:

What's the difference between just leaving the window up and making a sandwich?

From a US Chess rulebook standpoint there is very little difference though it is kind of hard to prove on-line that somebody was not thinking about the game while the window was up.

 

A prolonged disconnect can be readily determined and auto-resign based on time remaining is a compromise between penalizing people legitimately having a connection problem and rewarding people disconnecting to get some extra thinking time.

 

Standard rule of thumb is that people will say you shouldn't apply a penalty to innocent people like them when they have a connection drop and the same people will say you shouldn't reward their dastardly opponents that fake a disconnect just to get extra time.  No matter where the line is drawn there will be people saying it is in the wrong place, and individual people will define he correct place differently based on their current situation.

ericcrook

Maybe my problem is just a technicality.  I will have a disconnection, reconnect, and be unable to rejoin the game, even after 15-20 seconds.  Like, if I close the window, re-open, re-login, is there a way to join a game that's in progress?

It resigned me immediately with no grace window. 

tiger123021

Hello Chess.com

Is there a way to remove that auto-resignation setting? 

everyonesdesign

There was a ridiculous situation today. I played 3 min game and didn't even disconnect. I was thinking about the move ~40 seconds or something. And I had ~1m30 on the clock left, so I wanted to spend some more time calculating as it was a complex position for me. However then I saw this "Your game will be auto-resigned in 20 seconds" modal. I mean, what the hell? It's the first time I encounter this. I know it does it when a player disconnects, but I was still there, actually I was dragging pieces from time to time while thinking.

mrkrutas

Exactly the same issue... auto-resign sometimes pops up when you just think for a longer period. This is a very dumb and cheap feature and makes me want to leave chess.com every time I see it... it's like "we don't care about your time management, just move on immediately".

The only thing that makes me stay is the fact that auto-resigning actually does not work and even when you run to 0:00, the game continues. Indeed very dumb.

lieryan

I never had auto resign on a game when I have the page open. The only time auto resign warning pop-up only appears for me is on opening move, where you shouldn't need to be thinking much as it usually should just be a recital of your favourite opening.

If you don't want to bother with autoresign and want to play at your pace, or if you're expecting the possibility of a lengthy disconnect during commute, I'd probably suggest playing daily chess instead of rapids.

Auto resign is there to prevent wasting your opponent's time. If you still have five minutes on the clock, didn't find a way to win, and you just left the page instead of actually resigning, your opponent shouldn't have to wait out the entire five minutes before they can start another game.

mrkrutas

Actually, it happens to me all the time without any disconnections (and good internet connection), just playing a 2+1 game, when I wanna have a half-minute thought and it almost always pops up. On the other hand, it never works, so it is fine, I am not auto-losing grin.png

I wonder if some strict adblock rules could be the cause... gonna try it with adblock off.

Hurakami
everyonesdesign wrote:

There was a ridiculous situation today. I played 3 min game and didn't even disconnect. I was thinking about the move ~40 seconds or something. And I had ~1m30 on the clock left, so I wanted to spend some more time calculating as it was a complex position for me. However then I saw this "Your game will be auto-resigned in 20 seconds" modal. I mean, what the hell? It's the first time I encounter this. I know it does it when a player disconnects, but I was still there, actually I was dragging pieces from time to time while thinking.

Same thing happened to me. I had a 5 min blitz game in blitz arena, started calculating a complex mating net in a middle game with 3 minutes left on my clock, spend like 15 seconds on it and saw "you will auto-resign in 15 seconds", then made a blunder with that countdown on 1 second. I wish I could disable this. I wasn't disconnected or anything like that.

KenAlambra

Recently, I've only been playing bullet and even though I'm pre-moving most of my moves, sometimes, I get surprised that my time jumps like in 5-10 seconds after my pre-move got executed. I don't know if it is some kind of sorcery from my opponent's side or it was just my internet connection. The worst is, sometimes I would just be surprised that I am already lost because my time ran out even though on my screen, my opponent hasn't moved a piece and it was their turn. 🤷‍♂️ And then I got this opponent who, I believe, had more than 20 seconds left to make his last move to mate me (after blunders due to that pre-moving and time jumps). But then he rudely waited for his time to ran until the last second just to do that move. I'm surprised he wasn't counted with this auto-resign rule. 🤷‍♂️