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I recently quit a club because I started getting blocked from posting in threads -- even threads that were explicitly about me.
I maintain that I was respectful and polite and was merely being blocked for daring to disagree.

This thread is not to complain about my specific case, I am just suggesting that this kind of setting inherently enables abuse and chess.com should consider if it is the right approach.

Allow people to be banned from a club entirely, by the club mods? Sure.
Allow people to be warned or banned based on specific bad conduct like personal attacks, spamming etc? Absolutely.
But giving every poster the power to mute other people's mics I personally don't think is a good idea.

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TsetseRoar wrote:

I recently quit a club because I started getting blocked from posting in threads -- even threads that were explicitly about me.
I maintain that I was respectful and polite and was merely being blocked for daring to disagree.

This thread is not to complain about my specific case, I am just suggesting that this kind of setting inherently enables abuse and chess.com should consider if it is the right approach.

Allow people to be banned from a club entirely, by the club mods? Sure.
Allow people to be warned or banned based on specific bad conduct like personal attacks, spamming etc? Absolutely.
But giving every poster the power to mute other people's mics I personally don't think is a good idea.

 

A member can block another member and that will prevent them from posting in any content created by the blocking member. That counts for clubs or the general forums and can prevent harassment. 

 

If a player blocks you in order to harass you, you can report it to the club admins or site support:

https://support.chess.com/article/346-contact-us

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That's interesting, I did exactly the same thing, in almost certainly the same club, for the same reason.

I also sent you a message, but you didn't reply sad.png

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
TsetseRoar wrote:

I recently quit a club because I started getting blocked from posting in threads -- even threads that were explicitly about me.
I maintain that I was respectful and polite and was merely being blocked for daring to disagree.

This thread is not to complain about my specific case, I am just suggesting that this kind of setting inherently enables abuse and chess.com should consider if it is the right approach.

Allow people to be banned from a club entirely, by the club mods? Sure.
Allow people to be warned or banned based on specific bad conduct like personal attacks, spamming etc? Absolutely.
But giving every poster the power to mute other people's mics I personally don't think is a good idea.

 

A member can block another member and that will prevent them from posting in any content created by the blocking member. That counts for clubs or the general forums and can prevent harassment. 

 

If a player blocks you in order to harass you, you can report it to the club admins or site support:

https://support.chess.com/article/346-contact-us

I don't think anyone is suggesting that

It's a kind of end run around free speech, but a legal and permissible one

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Zinzylass1 wrote:

That's interesting, I did exactly the same thing, in almost certainly the same club, for the same reason.

I also sent you a message, but you didn't reply

I hadn't seen it, I don't have alerts on. I've replied to you now happy.png

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Ok happy.png

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'Blocking to harass' ? ...
I think the emphasis there is on 'harass'.

Another issue is making forums with somebody's username in the topic name and therefore the link.
Some clubs wisely veto that.  And such use of usernames is a bad idea even if the forum is complimentary.
Note that once a username is in a posted topic name -
it can't be removed from the link -
even if the topic name is fixed by editing.

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Well, I was actually accused of being tsteseroar lol

Now I believe we have both reapplied to join,so lets see what happens happy.png

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Clubs are allowed to act however they want as long as they aren't breaching an serious TOS. 

If a club doesnt want you in it and all of the members in it dont like you and are badmouthing you, maybe that suggests something about your own behaviour. regardless even if it is just them being toxic, why would you even want to stay in there and argue your case or defend yourself. Just leave. It's a toxic environment.

 

Its just a chess site, no ones going to care about a group of people badmouthing you in a club.

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I think maybe you should have a deeper read.

First of all it is not a "club" doing anything, it is certain individuals in that club.

Secondly no one has said that "all the members in it" do not like anyone.

Thirdly the people involved, myself and tsteseroar did in fact leave, but as I was accused of being him, I contacted him and we agreed on a joint return.

You really can do better...I hope

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Soniasthetics wrote:

Clubs are allowed to act however they want as long as they aren't breaching an serious TOS. 

If a club doesnt want you in it and all of the members in it dont like you and are badmouthing you, maybe that suggests something about your own behaviour. regardless even if it is just them being toxic, why would you even want to stay in there and argue your case or defend yourself. Just leave. It's a toxic environment.

 

Its just a chess site, no ones going to care about a group of people badmouthing you in a club.

Firstly, Zinzylass1 is quite correct that you are responding to a point that no-one has made. 
In the OP I explicitly said I have no issue with a club banning members, the issue is with individuals being able to mute other people, even within a thread.
For an example of this, note a recent exchange where sharing_caring  posted the message "I bet [TsetseRoar] won't respond -- he is for censorship" after he had just blocked me from responding. This is how this particular forum option is misused.

Secondly, regarding "no ones going to care about a group of people badmouthing you" this is also something I specifically addressed in the OP, which apparently you didn't read. I'm not complaining about my specific case, I am suggesting that this particular forum functionality encourages abuse.

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He said that after blocking you ???

I replied with a "somewhat similar" comment...about him

Taste of his own medicine ?

Even if temporary then ?

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Clubs would indeed have power within themselves.
But - is it for anyone here to decide for others what is pointless or not pointless?
Suggestion:  No.
There is no rule about the public forums that says that the clubs aspect of chess.com is a forebidden or taboo subject.
If whoever persists in arguing its inappropriate - then that in itself would be self-contradictory !!  grin
In addition - the blocking and PM features of chess.com transcend clubs.
And are both independent of and related to the club feature.
Nobody should have to shut up about this.

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Festerthetester wrote:

As usual your comment is simply agrumentative.  Who but you suggested shutting up?  This is precisely why you have been ejected from cubs.

But I didn't suggest shutting up.
As for being ejected - no member need live in timidity nor fear of same.
Somebody looking for pingpong now - not I - but that can be posted around.

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Again - it isn't 'pointless' in these public forums to discuss the club aspects of chess.com.
And many other aspects of the site.
People do.

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Festerthetester wrote:

As usual your comment is simply agrumentative.  Who but you suggested shutting up?  This is precisely why you have been ejected from cubs.

Where exactly did he or anyone refer to "shutting up" ?

Its  all very well saying that someone's post is " argumentative", seems to me to be an easy way of getting out of " an argument"

Or to put it more simply, just avoiding the point they made.