Can we have game analysis back?

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krzaq2

Functionally, this review thing feels like a major downgrade.

1) When going through the game I can no longer see myself on the graph, because the moves make it scroll away

2) Best moves are no longer shown on the board, making me change tabs between review and analysis for every move that was not labelled as "best"

2a) I've had this thing bug out on me and don't even show move annotation

3) The constant upselling of diamond membership is nauseating. Technically, this might be not ads, but it definitely feels like it.

justbefair
krzaq2 wrote:

Functionally, this review thing feels like a major downgrade.

1) When going through the game I can no longer see myself on the graph, because the moves make it scroll away

2) Best moves are no longer shown on the board, making me change tabs between review and analysis for every move that was not labelled as "best"

2a) I've had this thing bug out on me and don't even show move annotation

3) The constant upselling of diamond membership is nauseating. Technically, this might be not ads, but it definitely feels like it.

The graph displays even when you scroll down the move list.

It does take a little while to get used to but I think it is not difficult to see best moves and other types of moves.

The annotations are shown on the analysis screen.

I don't know what you mean by bug out but I have seen some times when the report processing stalls.  I have just rerun it.

krzaq2

The graph gets scrolled out of view as I go through the moves. It means I have to scroll up after every move. It does take a lot to get used to, indeed.

It does take a little while to get used to but I think it is not difficult to see best moves and other types of moves.

Analysis (and previously: game report, or whatever)

new review:

The report used to tell me what was wrong and what was the right way to go, now it only tells me the move is [good/bad], and that if I paid more, I'd be told why. Nothing about the best move though.

 

By bug out I mean that sometimes the board works as if I had "show move classification on board" turned off, which I do not. I could not reproduce it on demand, but it had happened to me at least twice.

justbefair

It did show the best move on the screenshot I posted. It was Nxc4.

I have had times where the report processing took a long time and the move classifications (colors) did not show. That used to happen on the old report some times too. I thought it was most likely due to problems with my old phone.

I got a new phone last week and things process much more quickly.

Martin_Stahl

They are going to be adding the arrows in review. They currently exist in the Analysis tab.

DefenderPug2

I wish I didn’t need subscription to get full analysis.

krzaq2

I half expect that they'll require diamond to get the arrows back...

nTzT

I really just want the old damn report system back. I do not like this review feature.

Isaac_2013
nTzT wrote:

I really just want the old damn report system back. I do not like this review feature.

One thing I can suggest is to join the beta (if you can) so you can test things and suggest whether you like it or not happy.png

Mariba66

As a paying membership user (platinum) I don’t take it very lightly that you make what we used to have access to less available than when I started my membership. 
This is is not the first time it happened, at least not for us tablet users (Ipad). 
This new feature is nothing but an irritating commercial for Diamond membership. I want what I had access too back. And I want some concideration for us tablet users, and think about how we can press the right «buttons». And we want them within the screen, without having to scroll and constantly zooming in and out with the fingers to find them. 

Mariba66

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/site-feedback/can-we-have-game-analysis-back?page=1#comment-64606119

I would suggest Chess.com starting to read the feedback, and fix the problems they insist on creating for us. 

Martin_Stahl
Mariba66 wrote:

As a paying membership user (platinum) I don’t take it very lightly that you make what we used to have access to less available than when I started my membership. 
This is is not the first time it happened, at least not for us tablet users (Ipad). 
This new feature is nothing but an irritating commercial for Diamond membership. I want what I had access too back. And I want some concideration for us tablet users, and think about how we can press the right «buttons». And we want them within the screen, without having to scroll and constantly zooming in and out with the fingers to find them. 

 

The features of Game Report exist in Game Review and you get access to the same things. The only thing that is diamond only is the new move explanations.

 

The move bar will float under the board on the Analysis tab.

Martin_Stahl
Mariba66 wrote:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/site-feedback/can-we-have-game-analysis-back?page=1#comment-64606119

I would suggest Chess.com starting to read the feedback, and fix the problems they insist on creating for us. 

 

Staff do read feedback, though the Article announcing the update probably gets the most visibility.

 

https://www.chess.com/news/view/chesscom-releases-new-game-review

Mariba66

Have you tried using your finger on an Ipad or similar to move one move at a time? Because the coloured best moves, or suggested moves don’t appear on the Analyse-feature any longer. Please try that, and please fix these «buttons».

And please stop the heavy Diamond-adds.

Mariba66

Here are two screen pictures of the extra problems for tablet users I was talking about, in addition to those posted by others here in the thread, that clearly illustrate the issues as well. 
I have also noted that whenever I bring up the problems with using the Ipad now, after the previous and recent changes, there’s no understanding from Chess.com, and nothing is fixed, so if you read feedback and complaints, you clearly don’t want to fix it!

It used to be a perfect device to use here!



inlovewithGod

Just to add on. It seems like this new update has taken away some functionality. I feel like I've lost what I previously had, and now I'm being told to upgrade to get it back. I would at least like to have what I previously had back without having to upgrade.

inlovewithGod

QSO67: Sorry, I should have been more clear.
Previously after every game I could either do Analysis, or there was a Game Report button. I was able to do as many Game Reports as I wanted, but today that stopped. It looks like Game Report has been replaced by the Game Review. And Game Review stopped working for me today and said I needed to upgrade.
It's fine if Game review is a new feature that requires a higher subscription, but I'd like to have the old Game Report back.

inlovewithGod

It looks like the new Review doesn't allow you to click "show line" unless you upgrade.
Maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but I thought before I could see the lines in the old Report when it said a particular move was a blunder or mistake.

Knights_of_Doom

Presuming that you're all talking about the new English descriptions for each move...  I found that feature rather useless.  It was ok for the first few opening moves, but once in the middle game, being told over and over that I had the wrong idea just doesn't help without seeing what the right idea is.  Also, "wrong idea" and "right idea" are useless without some clue as to what the "ideas" in question are.  A move and an idea are two different things.  After a few moves I just clicked back to the analysis mode.

Martin_Stahl
QSO67 wrote:
inlovewithGod wrote:

It looks like the new Review doesn't allow you to click "show line" unless you upgrade.
Maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but I thought before I could see the lines in the old Report when it said a particular move was a blunder or mistake.

There was nothing like Show Line AFAIK. What was there is that tiny magnifying glass icon there in Analysis tab, which gives u possible continuation. And this Analysis tab we still have, including that tiny magnifying glass icon. Is this what u looking for?

 

The poster is talking about this show line in the Review when on a move:

 

I thought it was the explanation that wouldn't show and the Show Line would  meh.png but maybe I was mistaken

edit: I realized that after making or showing the best move under Review that there is additional text for the move explanation that is certainly different than what exists under Report. So, the big difference is that the line itself isn't shown anymore.