Chess.com unfairly banned my old account

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@Honchkrowabcd

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It was a 7 year old account with diamond membership for over 2 years with no past infractions, but they banned me for something I never did and all I can do is talk to support bots and they denied my appeal even though I thought I explained literally everything that could have possibly been seen as sandbagging and I don't know what to do. I already opened up this new account because I had no other way of trying to get my account back, but I feel like if I could like talk to a real person or be told the exact games or reasons on why I got flagged for sandbagging I could explain everything

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I see a large number of daily games resigned in the opening in late January and early February. That dropped hundreds of rating points. That looks like sandbagging to me.

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Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

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bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

Sorry to say but that is nobody's problem.I understand that but it happenned still.

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Hey! I found a cheater. Can we report this guy. https://www.chess.com

I reported it with the following reason, but hes not getting banned...

Reason:

This account is cheating, He is boosting his rating. He is cooperating with his another account. He is doing couple moves check mate or resigning after few moves. The accounts have almost identical names too. Look his
I can easily track back them. Some of his oldest account is also got a ban.

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apple_pineapple84 wrote:
bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

Sorry to say but that is nobody's problem.I understand that but it happenned still.

How is it nobody's problem? I wasn't sandbagging, many people lose hundreds of daily ELO to timeouts, so it is a problem when I get falsely banned for it

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enyesz-tenyeszto wrote:

Hey! I found a cheater. Can we report this guy. https://www.chess.com

I reported it with the following reason, but hes not getting banned...

Reason:

This account is cheating, He is boosting his rating. He is cooperating with his another account. He is doing couple moves check mate or resigning after few moves. The accounts have almost identical names too. Look his
I can easily track back them. Some of his oldest account is also got a ban.

No. You can't report a cheater in the Forum.

It is not allowed. If you reported them properly, you have done what you can.

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bigshortsoup68 wrote:
apple_pineapple84 wrote:
bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

Sorry to say but that is nobody's problem.I understand that but it happenned still.

How is it nobody's problem? I wasn't sandbagging, many people lose hundreds of daily ELO to timeouts, so it is a problem when I get falsely banned for it

Resigning games with no reason is called sandbagging

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bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

Don't resign them.

Use vacation mode to put them on pause. When you have a bit of time, play them.

And in future, try to stick at a more manageable number of games.

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apple_pineapple84 wrote:
bigshortsoup68 wrote:
apple_pineapple84 wrote:
bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

Sorry to say but that is nobody's problem.I understand that but it happenned still.

How is it nobody's problem? I wasn't sandbagging, many people lose hundreds of daily ELO to timeouts, so it is a problem when I get falsely banned for it

Resigning games with no reason is called sandbagging

I had a reason, because I was too busy to finish them, you don't ban someone for resigning when they have to go to when they time out

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Yeah, but in daily, you always have the option to use vacation mode for a few days and come back later when you have more time. You can also just blitz your moves; you'll make more blunders that way, but you'll still win some of your games and so won't lose as many points.

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Yeah that's true. But the effect of losing a bunch of rating points is no different from someone who times out in their games, and in daily chess rating is already very inaccurate due to people rarely playing it + time outs, along with the fact it was only around 200 rating points (which is very easy to tilt) 1 year ago makes this ban pretty unfair in my opinion considering I barely played daily too

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Timing out in a bunch of games could be described as unintentional sandbagging, so long as one does not do so intentionally.

Resigning, even without the intent to sandbag, makes it a deliberate action that could have been avoided.

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bigshortsoup68 wrote:
apple_pineapple84 wrote:
bigshortsoup68 wrote:
apple_pineapple84 wrote:
bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

Sorry to say but that is nobody's problem.I understand that but it happenned still.

How is it nobody's problem? I wasn't sandbagging, many people lose hundreds of daily ELO to timeouts, so it is a problem when I get falsely banned for it

Resigning games with no reason is called sandbagging

I had a reason, because I was too busy to finish them, you don't ban someone for resigning when they have to go to when they time out

Then put on vacation mode

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bummer dude

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Why are people saying unban Honch??
He was a famous spammer and troll, no need to unban this kid.

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Ban this alt if anything.

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I don’t know what motivates a sandbagger… they lower their elo for some sort of personal gain. Perhaps to join elo restricted tournaments, farm elo points or even to troll and frustrate lower elo players.

chess.com have a dedicated team to detect sandbaggers…. not my department, sorry.

Have you apologized to any others for elo shaming them yet?

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bigshortsoup68 wrote:

Yes but I was very busy at the time and I couldn't time out on them due to diamond membership vacation and I kept getting notifications from it so I resigned them, I don't see how that's different from losing hundreds of rating from timing out if you don't have diamond membership vacation

To me this does not hold water at all.

You start some daily games. The day after you lose them. Then you start new daily games again. The day after you lose the newly started. Then you start yet some new daily games. The day after you lose them.

For two weeks the same procedure. It’s not that you started them on the same time, and got busy so you couldn’t finish them. You kept starting new ones.

Your explanation that you were “busy” does not cut it. It’s simple as that.