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JulianoRose
thank you nervesofbutter finally some useful words outta you lol

not to mention lichess again lol..but on that app it says the ping right on the top..it hovers from 200 to 300 ms..server 1ms

that seems very useful to have but chess.com probably doesnt want to copy that huh lol

but regardless of all that..why does my experience on lichess have less time issues than here..

other guy keeps mentioning other sites handle lag differently..in what way does it
Alchessblitz

Lichess is clearly less good.

On chess.com we have for example the possibility to have the game report which allows us to have the opinion of coach Stokfish telling us this is a big mistake, this is good etc.  and finally it allows to have a chess population playing with a better "chess quality". (This is important because for example many chess programs are very powerful with many possible levels and therefore if the human population is too much in "the cult of ego" with a "chess bad quality" even if by dint of playing it can create strong players who are powerful in tactics, "opening memorization" etc. in the end it's better to play against AIs of his level).

 

Now let's be clear Lichess has the huge advantage to be free and to be able to invite a specific player to play against yourself in for example 5 minutes.  And by the way I only use Lichess to play games against my Father. 

It seems to me that Lichess has the big flaw of not having the function to blacklist a player.

The fact that a site is paid for may induce a sense of responsibility on the part of the player and with that responsibility the player will be less likely to do incorrect things such as using the help of a strong AI, consulting the opening encyclopedia of the AI, not playing the game but letting the time run out and coming back just near the end to play a move etc.  

 

JulianoRose
nervesofbutter... im guilty of letting off a good one too lol..

and being a bullet player, i look at that as like mma fighting because it exercises the reflexes like crazy..and when i get cut off from being in that zone because of time lag or ping lag whatever i end up acting like a whiney baby lol..

doing the work you do you must encounter a lot of that energy..i used to work in electrical construction and once got threatened to get shot because they didnt read their mail about an outage lol

i dont want to discount the hard work thats been put in this site..im just looking forward to the improvements..

if anyone knows for a fact that chess.com wont improve the time issues then theres no need for me to post anymore..



duntcare

how much seconds is your time lag usually

JulianoRose
lag time for me ranges..from like 10 to 20 seconds in a 1 minute game..

it gets frustrating when i get ahead like 20 seconds and opponent has 2 seconds left and im about to checkmate them and all my 20 seconds just runs out because it wont move..

meanwhile on lichess it runs smooth for me for some reason..

im not using a browser...im using the chess app and lichess app..

some games here is smooth but speeduptheserver pointed out in another post that sometimes when the lag works in my favor and my opponent moves slightly slower...im wondering how many games i won were actually fair
duntcare
JulianoRose wrote:
nervesofbutter... im guilty of letting off a good one too lol..

and being a bullet player, i look at that as like mma fighting because it exercises the reflexes like crazy..and when i get cut off from being in that zone because of time lag or ping lag whatever i end up acting like a whiney baby lol..

doing the work you do you must encounter a lot of that energy..i used to work in electrical construction and once got threatened to get shot because they didnt read their mail about an outage lol

i dont want to discount the hard work thats been put in this site..im just looking forward to the improvements..

if anyone knows for a fact that chess.com wont improve the time issues then theres no need for me to post anymore..



then in this case its simply your connection to the server/router and router connection to other things rather than the server's response times probably because even at 100 ping thats around a 0.1s delay and 10 to 20 is 10k at minimum (which is slower than public wifi ran with ~ upwards of 100 people on non ideal sites), that sounds like either disconnection or another issue, either way use a computer and dont use the app (they kind of decided that the app wasnt the best and to use most of their resources on the site anyway)   

JulianoRose
i see..i guess im out of luck no computer lol..

how does that explain lichess working smoothly for me?

JulianoRose
i dont use a computer for lichess..im using the same ipad on the lichess app
JulianoRose
right now i tested a game here one minute..its running smooth butopponent lost a lot of time..im not sure if they were thinking or if it was lag for them..

it gets smoother at night on chess.com but after like 20 games the lag shows up like 2 to 5 seconds..the day timei notice is when it gets worse..but lichess would still be smooth for me
JulianoRose
tonight has been smooth..kept playing no issues here on the chess.com app..will keep updating
JulianoRose
finally happened where time lag took place..first noticed couple games ago noticed losing a couple seconds then on the next game maybe lost 15 seconds..then went straight to lichess to test it and it was smooth..

had a good session here though managed to get 100 of my points back..

there would be periods of good times and then long streaks of bad lag..when i first wrote my first post about it here it was bad for like 4 days straight no matter what time of the day..i managed to sometimes win when they kept blundering but i had to premove every move..

and while chess app was going thru that it would be smooth on lichess
janeymacfeck

Why is it that the CHEAPSKATES  are always the most verbose in complaining? I just checked your games,  even TODAY, you have already played lots. You do maximum puzzles. Why are you so miserable when you use the resource to the full?

Why not bung C.Com a few pounds/Euros/Dollars and maybe they will improve their great site even more.

JulianoRose
you havent read what i wrote have you lol
JulianoRose
you dont even play bullet so lag doesnt matter to you so what the feck janey lol
JulianoRose
no cap...lichess has faster bullets thats consistent..chess.coms bullets turn into caps..
duntcare
JulianoRose wrote:
i see..i guess im out of luck no computer lol..

how does that explain lichess working smoothly for me?

that has pretty much nothing to do with the site and i really wouldnt know any better unless specific details are provided unless your suggesting your connection to the sites geographic location (servers) are delayed but thats unlikely because its over 10 seconds

so just take it as you just have connection issue

duntcare
JulianoRose wrote:
right now i tested a game here one minute..its running smooth butopponent lost a lot of time..im not sure if they were thinking or if it was lag for them..

it gets smoother at night on chess.com but after like 20 games the lag shows up like 2 to 5 seconds..the day timei notice is when it gets worse..but lichess would still be smooth for me

the more you play the higher % you disconect, its not lag, its your own internet, if you went to lichess to test and it was "smooth" thats because you just didnt disconnect because you probably did not play as much, and if you still dont believe that just go on lichess

and the issue with you having better connection at night might be with network provider +  one or two games of disconection sucks but you can still play

duntcare

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JulianoRose
i can still play but it was just a good night though..at the time i wrote my original post here it was like 4 days straight any time of the day chess.com would be laggy and lichess would be smooth all day for me..that would happen periodically

which is why i said earlier in another post maybe im closer to lichess nodes than the chess.com nodes
Nimzowitsch

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