Puzzle UI suck

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Something is really wrong with the direction where puzzles are going.

Difficulty:

The default setting for puzzle difficulty  is standard which in fact is very easy and you get this +2/-20 rating change, to get somewhat challenging you need to choose extra hard, which is not, extra hard puzzles should be rated much higher than your current rating.  Default setting should give you puzzles at about your rating.

Speed bonus:

Having a speed bonus discourages players  from thinking about the puzzles. I want to find the best move, if i want to do it fast i can go to puzzle rush. There should be a setting to turn it off.

The tip on the side: 

It is not necessary to give you a hint what is the puzzle theme, the only necessary information is who's move is next.

Show solution:

It is unnecessary to slowly show all the moves from the beginning, if i click show solution i want to see one move from the position i am stuck at and i want to understand it, if i need further hints I want to navigate through the moves myself.

There are other things like repeating puzzles, etc. all this just forces me to go solve puzzles somewhere else.

Are you sure your UI/Product team even solve puzzles themselves?

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The Difficulty option is dumb a bit but I set it to Extra Hard once long time ago and never touched it again

As for the Speed bonus: just dont pay attention on this feature

Puzzle goals and Chat hints can be hidden via Settings > Gameplay > Puzzles

There is the Hint button that shows the next move only

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

The site made a conscious decision to have the Standard option be the default, where the average rating of puzzles is lower than your current puzzle rating. The other difficulty levels are in comparison to that default level.

The speed bonus only impacts the Collect Puzzle Points feature and doesn’t impact puzzle ratings. It’s safe to ignore and if you don’t like that particular feature, you can completely disable it.

Repeated puzzle are relatively rare but it’s also important for pattern recognition to see puzzle you’ve solved before.

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Really hating the game review coach telling me the idea of the puzzle with seemingly no way to turn it off in app. Even if I try and avoid reading it, my eyes catch checkmate, or bishop in the hint and it ruins the puzzle. I don't get to solve it on my own and I don't get the benefit of thinking about the position.
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bdoggo1 wrote:

Really hating the game review coach telling me the idea of the puzzle with seemingly no way to turn it off in app. Even if I try and avoid reading it, my eyes catch checkmate, or bishop in the hint and it ruins the puzzle. I don't get to solve it on my own and I don't get the benefit of thinking about the position.

On Android it's Settings > Puzzles > Show Puzzle Goals

Avatar of TheOtherAlysCooper

All my basic puzzles are the same, every time. Why am I going to keep doing one puzzle for weeks until I get a new one? I've recently switched to puzzles on lichess

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My chess skills are improving because of the Lichess puzzles. But the chess.com puzzles have not improved my game at all.

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Chess.com has prioritised a pretty ui for puzzles. All that effort and money for what a level select screen? It's not something I care about in the slightest and I doubt I'm alone.

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TheOtherAlysCooper wrote:

All my basic puzzles are the same, every time. Why am I going to keep doing one puzzle for weeks until I get a new one? I've recently switched to puzzles on lichess


You your last three puzzles were different

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TheOtherAlysCooper wrote:

Chess.com has prioritised a pretty ui for puzzles. All that effort and money for what a level select screen? It's not something I care about in the slightest and I doubt I'm alone.


You can turn that feature off

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/9681952-what-are-puzzle-points-on-chess-com

Avatar of TheOtherAlysCooper

Not exactly the same, but everyone of my basic puzzles (the non customizable ones) are the same tactic. Take a piece on the back row to checkmate, or wow sorry I didn't say taking a piece on the back row, them taking that and me taking them. I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true. I'll go do the three puzzles and in five mins check and see for yourself

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Slightly more variation than I'm used to but it's still all such simple puzzles. I'm not going to keep doing them when they're teaching me tactics I already know

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I obviously can't share my puzzles on lichess here, but the puzzles are far more varied

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And it's not about turning off features. It's the fact that chess.com has prioritised a pretty ui rather than doing any of the many changes that players are actually asking for.

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For example, a good simple improvement for the app would be to make users able to reply to comments rather like you are able to on the pc.

Avatar of Martin_Stahl
TheOtherAlysCooper wrote:

Not exactly the same, but everyone of my basic puzzles (the non customizable ones) are the same tactic. Take a piece on the back row to checkmate, or wow sorry I didn't say taking a piece on the back row, them taking that and me taking them. I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true. I'll go do the three puzzles and in five mins check and see for yourself

At a certain rating level, that's going to be very common.

That said, staff are aware of less variety in some rating bands and are looking into methods to improve that

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I'll maybe try the puzzles on here again in six months or so then. For now I'll stick to Lichess.

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TheOtherAlysCooper wrote:

I'll maybe try the puzzles on here again in six months or so then. For now I'll stick to Lichess.

Is Lichess paid?

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Completely free, unlimited puzzles. The elo scoring is like 300/400 points higher than on chess.com for me (800/900 on chess.com, 1200 on lichess). In terms of puzzles though, it's great.

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Lichess is open source and it's run by a non profit

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