Should Chess.com Change How Vacation Works?

jdcannon

Chess.com is considering changing vacation and is seeking feedback from the community to help decide if we should.

Some things to consider:

Do we allow too much vacation? 

Can you use too much vacation at a time?

Should it be limited to so much per game? 

Post any ideas you have. Nothing is off the table  

Champions2007

it can be like 10 per game... I usually end up using my vacation too fast and lose on time

Magnus_Corner

Having vacation for limited games is good

Champions2007

Yeah

jdcannon

What do you mean 10 per game? Like 10 days per game?

Magnus_Corner

15 per game is nice

Champions2007

But is that not too much? But again a good suggestion

Champions2007
jdcannon wrote:

What do you mean 10 per game? Like 10 days per game?

Yes

Magnus_Corner

Or it may be like this also 

Example:

If I am playing 10 games then only vacation of 5 games

Magnus_Corner
jdcannon wrote:

What do you mean 10 per game? Like 10 days per game?

Agreed

Champions2007
Magnus_Corner wrote:

Or it may be like this also 

Example:

If I am playing 10 games then only vacation of 5 games

You will lose the other 5 games?

Magnus_Corner

Oh! I forgot it then it should work like how @jdcannon

Champions2007

Perhaps yes but I guess we will have to ask some other people as well

Champions2007

...for their suggestions

Champions2007

Ok

SamCopeland

Adding my opinions to the discussion as a very opinionated community member I dislike vacation time. My issues are...

  • It's too much. Almost two months for premium members!
  • It kicks in automatically, usually not b/c players are on vacation, but just b/c they forgot to move. Then the game stalls for a week or two.
  • It's abused by players in clearly losing positions.
  • It's inconsistent - some tournaments/games have it and some don't.

If vacation time is retained, I think it should be limited to something like 10 days per year.

My personal preference is to do away with vacation time and use other more flexible correspondence time controls. Here are two preferred options:

ICCF Time Controls (X moves in X days): The standard here is 10 moves in 10 days. After 10 moves are made, you bank any extra time you haven't used. This allows you the flexibility to take several days on a difficult move or to bank time and be offline for the weekend or travels or whatever.

Online Go Time Controls (Initial Time, Increment, Max Time): online-go.com supports a "Fischer" time control for correspondence where one starts with some amount of time (say three days), and gains an increment (say 12 hours) for every move. One can "bank" up to seven days of thinking time. I very much like this option because again, one is encouraged to play quickly, but one can bank time for difficult moves or travels, weekends, etc.

Champions2007

Come on that is bad. There are many people like me who like traveling and travel a lot. So like I lose a lot on time. Vacation is very important

RMChess1954

I've started to use it a couple of times, but connectivity is nearly everywhere. At least in the USA. I end up using my phone app (the source of many of my blunders). Hey it's just a game. I like to win but if I drop a game due to time I'll make up for it later. I'm not sure I've ever lost on time. If I have it was very rare. Much more often I move too quick and blunder.

 

Redman

People can abuse vacation. I recently had a guy who all but used up his remaining three weeks vacation rather than resign to a forced mate in three. - presumably he hoped I was about to drop dead before I could administer it. (And yes I do know this is vacation abuse and I could have reported him). However, personally, I do find the current levels of vacation about right, as I never know when I will be called away for a few days.  

Champions2007

But it is not the same in all places right. In many remote areas, there is no internet