Suddenly lost while thinking due to "abandoned game"

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RaymondRReddington

What are the exact rules surrounding that, e.g. under which circumstances will this apply? There is not even a warning, like "please move within the next 5 seconds or you will lose", instead the game is just suddenly ended even though I still have enough time left to finish the game, it was an equal position as well.

I get the reasoning for such a feature, but the implementation is quite bad imho, games should never be ruled as abandoned as long as there is no internet disconnect or the browser being closed or something like that. I was thinking for around 1 minute calculating a knight sacrifice, which is totally reasonable imho.

You could also implement a popup or something like that asking the player if he is still there instead of just ending the game. Thinking is a part of chess and should never lead to suddenly losing the game.

notmtwain
RaymondRReddington wrote:

What are the exact rules surrounding that, e.g. under which circumstances will this apply? There is not even a warning, like "please move within the next 5 seconds or you will lose", instead the game is just suddenly ended even though I still have enough time left to finish the game, it was an equal position as well.

I get the reasoning for such a feature, but the implementation is quite bad imho, games should never be ruled as abandoned as long as there is no internet disconnect or the browser being closed or something like that. I was thinking for around 1 minute calculating a knight sacrifice, which is totally reasonable imho.

You could also implement a popup or something like that asking the player if he is still there instead of just ending the game. Thinking is a part of chess and should never lead to suddenly losing the game.

https://support.chess.com/article/338-how-does-game-abandonment-work

You mostly play 2 1 bullet. If you thought for a minute in the first ten moves, you would trip the long mover timer.

 

/ You were thinking about 9..Nxg4? It seems unclear to me. It works if he accepts but what if 10 Nxd4?

2 1 bullet is not the place to be calculating such moves.

RaymondRReddington

Thank you very much for the link, that helps a lot and explains it.

I still very much dislike the rule though, esp in bullet it doesn't kill anybody to wait till the clock runs to 0, whereas cases like mine where it's accidentally triggered can quite easily happen.

Tbf in 2+1 it might not happen all too often, but what if I play a different format, lets say 15 sec + 4 sec for example. Will I really lose the game as soon as I think for 8 seconds during the opening? That would be crazy, but if I understand the rules correctly that is what would happen?!

 

About the position, I agree with you it's not very smart to calculate too much in bullet, obviously I don't plan to spend a minute in a position like that, but sometimes when I start calculating I just kinda forget about the clock and get lost in all the variants. Ofc hxg4 loses instantly, so Nxd4 is the only move, then I was planning Qh4 and it gets very complicated, the knight on d4 is now pinned because of f2.

jerryxiao_201203

my computer suddenly closed and it said game ambannded