Visible Evaluation Bar when Playing Bots

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Avatar of charliedatil

Why has the evaluation bar option been removed? It was an excellent feature when playing against bots!! Especially when the bot made a mistake and the evaluation bar shifted dramatically. In those moments, identifying the correct move isn’t always straightforward.

The evaluation bar on display when playing against bots serves as a helpful hint. It shows when you should think more deeply or look for a hidden tactic. The stronger the bot, the harder it is to find the best move, even after the bot makes a mistake. The same applies for our play, sometimes a bad move is not clearly evident and the evaluation bar moving negatively makes you think harder on why that move is losing.

Visible evaluation bar is really great for training and learning! All the custom challenge options were great too. Play with or without takebacks, play with or without evaluation bar, play with or without hints, etc. I sincerely do not understand why these options were removed as they allowed for different ways of trainning. 

Could you please bring evaluation bar option while playing against bots back? 

THANKS!

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x2.

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Hear, hear: exactly what Charlie said. The Eval bar disappearing really sucks.

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

Staff are going to be bringing back the customization options on the personality bots soon.

If any assistance options are enabled, the max number of crowns that can be received is going to be one

Avatar of charliedatil

Thanks for the update, Martin!
I hope the three types of bot play: assisted, friendly, and challenge also come back. These were great and the bot star badge system (one star for assisted, two stars for friendly, three stars for challenge) is also great and made a lot of sense as it was designed.

Friendly matches among real people allow for take backs, for example, so in bot play that also makes sense. Assisted used to mean you use a visible eval bar, hints, threats or engine lines but no take backs. Challenge meant no assistance or take backs.

One last thing: Having the option of using a custom starting position (importing any FEN) is also super important when playing bots and for training. That was also removed from the custom challenge options and I hope this change is also reverted.

THANKS!

Martin_Stahl wrote:

Staff are going to be bringing back the customization options on the personality bots soon.

If any assistance options are enabled, the max number of crowns that can be received is going to be one

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My understanding is that the options that show on the non-personality bots will be shown on the other bots. There will not be separate options and if any of the assistance options are enabled, they’ll be one crown.


Regarding Custom positions, you should be able to use the Analysis board to set up a position and use the Practice vs Computer option to play bots, then the Change bot option to get a specific bot.

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Evaluationbar is something i realy miss. Why gone? Money money money? One reason more to me not to use premium.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:

Staff are going to be bringing back the customization options on the personality bots soon.

If any assistance options are enabled, the max number of crowns that can be received is going to be one

Do you have a timeline on that? I am deciding if I should renew or change website. Thank you

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All I know is it should be soon.

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even more feedback here

THANKS