Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair?

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ThierryTuna

Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair? 

Martin_Stahl
ThierryTuna wrote:

Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair? 

 

The two new free flairs were something requested due to current world circumstances.

 

For site related information on the situation, see the following;

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/in-support-of-ukraine

 

https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1498644222320074755

pcbpcb
Martin_Stahl wrote:
ThierryTuna wrote:

Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair? 

 

The two new free flairs were something requested due to current world circumstances.

 

For site related information on the situation, see the following;

 

https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/in-support-of-ukraine

 

https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/1498644222320074755

 

The Twitter update is more informative than the blog link in explaining why chess.com, and many many many other international organisations, are condemning the actions of Russia. However,  the Twitter link is likely to be blocked in Russia at the moment; the government there is aiming to block all news outlets that carry anything other than the official Russian government view. Perhaps you could re-post it here? (I would, but it is an image with no alt text).

Martin_Stahl

I don't have it in text format, so can just post the image here

Ziggy_Zugzwang

This virtue signalling would mean more if ALL war mongering was condemned, including the nation that has been involved in the most wars in the last seventy years, using dubious pretexts, and relying on proxies. A nation that can't even be honest enough to declare itself an empire; notwithstanding, it has many many fine people in it.

DiogenesDue
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:

This virtue signalling would mean more if ALL war mongering was condemned, including the nation that has been involved in the most wars in the last seventy years, using dubious pretexts, and relying on proxies. A nation that can't even be honest enough to declare itself an empire; notwithstanding, it has many many fine people in it.

The difference would seem to be that the country you are talking about is not trying to annex new territories.  This distinction may escape some.  Your chosen flag represents a country that is historically neutral, but who is also "virtue signaling" and condemning the Russian invasion wink.png.

It's pretty simple.  The world is changing, and the days of just invading a country, absorbing the outcry and just waiting for acceptance over time are probably over.  Putin is a little too old and set in his KGB mindset to realize this.

Sack_o_Potatoes
ThierryTuna wrote:

Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair? 

Russia is killing thousands for no reason

Rabbit
This is kind of offensive though, not everyone in Russia approves of this wrong-doing of Putin. There are protests IN RUSSIA about this.
miniwyvern
ThierryTuna wrote:

Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair? 

im surprised chess.com hasnt pulled the plug on any and all russian and belarussian operations and membership - i mean logically and morally if it is ok for instagram, facebook, macdonalds coke and apple - why the hell are you guys continuing to allow the people living in the aggressors countries to benefit from the service you provide  - we all must be made to suffer - sorry 

lfPatriotGames
miniwyvern wrote:
ThierryTuna wrote:

Why is there a Ukrainian flag flair but no Russian flag flair? 

im surprised chess.com hasnt pulled the plug on any and all russian and belarussian operations and membership - i mean logically and morally if it is ok for instagram, facebook, macdonalds coke and apple - why the hell are you guys continuing to allow the people living in the aggressors countries to benefit from the service you provide  - we all must be made to suffer - sorry 

It shouldn't be surprising at all. The companies you mentioned (and many more) are curbing or ending services to Russian citizens quickly. Every day more companies are curtailing involvement. 

BUT, they are only doing it because they are concerned about perception. They don't want to "get caught". Some entertainment companies are even doing it. So while pretty much everyone condemns the actions of Russia, and many even support Ukraine, some of those companies are trying to play both sides. So they will make a half hearted attempt to support one side, while taking money from and providing services to, the other. 

I'm not saying either side should be taken, because there are certainly valid reasons to support either side, but for a company to "say" they support one side while continuing to do business with the other is very hypocritical. At best. 

X-vektor

I support Chess.com position on not banning anybody. 

"to connect people through the game of chess"

A Russian flag flair? It must be a misunderstanding of some kind.

miniwyvern

...there are plainly NOT x2 sides to these events - its clearly an outrage against humanity and thats the world is up in arms - although unfortunately for ukraine not literally yet. 

my point is that the sanctions should affect ordinary russians aswell as the elite political classes. sorry but you live in a country that is committing crimes against humanity and killing babies.

so maybe you shoudn't get instagram (disabled outright yesterday), maybe you shouldnt have apple (they should cancel the accounts of all russian residents) and yes maybe there is an argument to say that maybe chess.com should not have a presence in a country which kills not only innocent civilians , but stomps all over its neighbour's culture - think of kyiv and its history... now while many will say most people who use chess.com no doubt disagree with the war - most is not all , and maybe they shouldnt be doing chess puzzles and playing online , maybe they should be out in the streets gettiung arrested with the rest of the protesters and doing everything they can to rid the world of this evil dwarf. 

 

and as for companies playing both sides - yeah its not fashionable or au current to be cynical about a corporations good intent - having said that yes doing business with a bloodthirsty baby killers govt and its scared and ignorant citizenry is bad for their brand . shpould go without saying.

someone i follow on instagram was posting her work and life leading up to the shutdown yesterday without even a mention of what is happening. her last post was "here are some final photos, hopefully its temporary pray for russia" and then a russian flag emoji. 

people in russia should not be able to insulate themselves from what is happening on instagram or on chess.com no matter how many good people live in russia , and no matter how much putin keeps them scared and ignorant.

Martin_Stahl

Locked since this went more political.

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