Wins/draws against 'Wally' dissapearing, deleted? corrupt website-code? - two in a row. with PROOF.

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rodneywelsh


 [ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GIPWHbv6abWydOKzH_qp6ux8_wyyKtpA/view?usp=sharing ]

 

watch that, and then tell me WHY two games in a row, both wins, against the 'Wally' AI, that the game record has not counted and is not appearing in my past-games, and i have no crowns against it.

 

I do hope there is a reason, because if not ... hmm ... bye bye Chess.com , if not , you obviously can't MAKE SURE the site's programming does what it's meant to / stays un-corrupted.

How many times might i have beaten it?    I'm only at around about 1000 in the  v.  humans rating, but considering it's a 1600? 1800?  maybe i should think of myself as a bit higher.

 

Piddly compared to the champs, but i don't think of myself that way.

Not the point.

 

Point is, people using your site NEED TO KNOW that it will record scores/wins against them correctly - part of the POINT of being able to see the crowns, is that you can see how-well you have or have not, in terms of skill improvement - with whatever this problem / hack was, one cannot.  Have some kind of code-checking process going on in your server please, with a BACKUP of the entire site's (functional) code , and force a delay in ppl's games until whatever corruption is out and you've blocked wherever it came from - until i get an explanation, why should i use Chess.com?

 

justbefair
rodneywelsh wrote:


 [ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GIPWHbv6abWydOKzH_qp6ux8_wyyKtpA/view?usp=sharing ]

 

watch that, and then tell me WHY two games in a row, both wins, against the 'Wally' AI, that the game record has not counted and is not appearing in my past-games, and i have no crowns against it.

 

I do hope there is a reason, because if not ... hmm ... bye bye Chess.com , if not , you obviously can't MAKE SURE the site's programming does what it's meant to / stays un-corrupted.

How many times might i have beaten it?    I'm only at around about 1000 in the  v.  humans rating, but considering it's a 1600? 1800?  maybe i should think of myself as a bit higher.

 

Piddly compared to the champs, but i don't think of myself that way.

Not the point.

 

Point is, people using your site NEED TO KNOW that it will record scores/wins against them correctly - part of the POINT of being able to see the crowns, is that you can see how-well you have or have not, in terms of skill improvement - with whatever this problem / hack was, one cannot.  Have some kind of code-checking process going on in your server please, with a BACKUP of the entire site's (functional) code , and force a delay in ppl's games until whatever corruption is out and you've blocked wherever it came from - until i get an explanation, why should i use Chess.com?

 

Those games aren't rated nor are they saved unless you click the save button.  

 

rodneywelsh

i'm neither saying, that it should be rated, NOR saved, so why are you saying that?

 

read my post carefully please - the POINT is that just like OTHER AI, i should've got a CROWN rating from defeating it twice, JUST LIKE the other AI computer-opponents.

justbefair
rodneywelsh wrote:

i'm neither saying, that it should be rated, NOR saved, so why are you saying that?

 

read my post carefully please - the POINT is that just like OTHER AI, i should've got a CROWN rating from defeating it twice, JUST LIKE the other AI computer-opponents.

You said it doesn't appear in your past games.  It won't unless you save it.

I couldn't read your little screen capture so I can't see what might have happened.

I suggest you report it to support.

 

rodneywelsh

sigh ... i meant LIKE the Isabel-bot game under the red-circle i've drawn.  I didn't do diddly for that game to be kept for reference there, displayed there,.. whatever,.. nor any of the other recent games with bots,.. so why would the one with Wally be any DIFFERENT?

assgatito

Is this a meme? sry

Martin_Stahl
rodneywelsh wrote:

sigh ... i meant LIKE the Isabel-bot game under the red-circle i've drawn.  I didn't do diddly for that game to be kept for reference there, displayed there,.. whatever,.. nor any of the other recent games with bots,.. so why would the one with Wally be any DIFFERENT?

 

In order for any bot game to be added to your archive, you have to choose the option to save it before starting a new game. So you must have done that for the game circled on your screenshot, since there is no automatic save mechanism.

 

In regards to stars, those should automatically show if you beat the bot.

rodneywelsh

its hypothetically possible i forgot that i'd saved the game with Isobel, fine, but the MAIN POINT was about the crowns, re

 

"In regards to stars, those should automatically show if you beat the bot."

 

are you suggesting i can't tell the difference between a win and a draw?

i've already made it clear i was talking about TWO WINS IN A ROW.

rodneywelsh

it really doesn't help much to re-state what's already known.

 

i'm after an explanation / investigation / correction, not someone making it APPEAR as though i don't know something.

 

Does mistaking the saved-games dynamic, necessarily mean i can't tell the difference between a win and a draw?

 

wow.  that's really sticking your neck out.  but thaaaaank you for the clarification,.. i cleaaarly didn't know.  What would my REASON to be making a POINT about not GETTING a crown for it ... if i did not already understand that it's for a win?  it's BEATING the AI, 100% of the time, there is no inconsistency there.

rodneywelsh

sigh ... i have to proove the crown's not there, do it?

fine.

 

video time&date ... 9:09 AM 30th July ,

taking a screenshot now...

 

rodneywelsh

aaah!  it'd been added.

 

hmm, a delay of some kind?  took a couple of DAYS, that is.

rodneywelsh

doesn't explain HOW or WHY that happened ... normally you get a crown /crowns immediately.

 

*shrugs*

 

and yes, i'm sure that the white/gold crown icons were missing, when finishing the two games, i just didn't post a picture of it , in thinking that what i thought was proof-enough with the Isobel thing, would proove that something abnormal had happened, considering that i've hardly clicked save-game, at ALL ... i think i remember one or two games where i was wanting to check how many moves-by-repetition it takes to end up getting a stalemate when you're winning, since the AI knows so-well and it seems unfair that the AI can remember it and steal a win away from you against the spirit of the game,

but apart from that, i don't think i've saved any at ALL ... so it LOOKED LIKE they get saved automatically.  ( and-so mine with Wally, would've ALSO have been saved automatically, but didn't appear to've )

 

Anyway, when i then played Wally a few more times until i won, just to make SURE that the gold crown icon was not working, i THEN, made the post.

So sorry, you could've been right about-what i'd've been making the wrong conclusion  -FROM, with-what would've been the wrong indicator,

but that's not what i USED to deduce it ... the Isbobel thing was what i tried to use to proove it.

 

So your assumption is part my fault there,  but a several day long delay in the crown icons ... was , and still is suspicious.  Was a server-down or something?

Martin_Stahl
rodneywelsh wrote:

its hypothetically possible i forgot that i'd saved the game with Isobel, fine, but the MAIN POINT was about the crowns, re

 

"In regards to stars, those should automatically show if you beat the bot."

 

are you suggesting i can't tell the difference between a win and a draw?

i've already made it clear i was talking about TWO WINS IN A ROW.

 

You don't get a crown for each win, if that's what you are trying to say. It's based on the level you play; you get three crowns for winning under Challenge mode, two for Friendly, and one for Assisted.

 

 

rodneywelsh

ugh ... sitll not listening, i am saying that the challenge-AMOUNT that should have been updated for that AI character, did not upgrade / move up to the NEXT level,

 

FYI it has also now happened for me with the Noam character.  The achievement level is still at ZERO crowns, when it should be at one.  I use LESS than fully-assisted, and when doing so, i normally get one for a character i've not beaten BEFORE, so YES, i understand how it works, i was mentioning how after two wins, i was SURE that it should have at least got to level-ONE crown, that if it might've been some aberrant failure on the server, that it has now happened TWICE, so something is going on.

rodneywelsh

FROM ZERO ... to ONE.  not a higher level from less tools, i can read, thank you for the possibility , but no ... the FIRST jump, i could've been more specific i guess.  I was clear enough though, no more guesswork if you don't mind, i know what has not happened for me.

x-3821197671
Just here to say you’ve got a serious negative attitude issue especially over something so minuscule. RELAX. Things WILL get better if YOU don’t make such a priority about it. Or send an email to chess.com and save yourself a headache and sour tone to others trying to HELP when you know there’s nothing they can do outside of suggesting something you may have missed, since you’ve gone to SUCH lengths over whatever (comedic) problems you have and that only chess.com can fix your tech complaint. Have a snickers bruh.
Martin_Stahl
rodneywelsh wrote:

ugh ... sitll not listening, i am saying that the challenge-AMOUNT that should have been updated for that AI character, did not upgrade / move up to the NEXT level,

 

FYI it has also now happened for me with the Noam character.  The achievement level is still at ZERO crowns, when it should be at one.  I use LESS than fully-assisted, and when doing so, i normally get one for a character i've not beaten BEFORE, so YES, i understand how it works, i was mentioning how after two wins, i was SURE that it should have at least got to level-ONE crown, that if it might've been some aberrant failure on the server, that it has now happened TWICE, so something is going on.

 

There isn't a challenge amount that automatically moves up.  Crowns are 100% based on what you choose when starting the challenge. There is a Next Bot option, but as a basic member, there are limited unlocked bots so I don't know if it just moved to the next available one or what. Only premium gets access to the locked bots.

 

rodneywelsh

no, not "amount" as you're put it ... up-TO ... the appopriate level.  i have at no point suggested that it goes up from individual wins, your inference that that is what i think, is wrong.

rodneywelsh
DanglinD wrote:
Just here to say you’ve got a serious negative attitude issue especially over something so minuscule. RELAX. Things WILL get better if YOU don’t make such a priority about it. Or send an email to chess.com and save yourself a headache and sour tone to others trying to HELP when you know there’s nothing they can do outside of suggesting something you may have missed, since you’ve gone to SUCH lengths over whatever (comedic) problems you have and that only chess.com can fix your tech complaint. Have a snickers bruh.

 

not sure how much to bother with this mostly pointless post ... if there is any reason why parts of a website not functioning the way they should, is supposed to NOT be serious enough to try to bring it to their attention, then please do post it here, because contrary to what you're conjecturing about what i supposedly know " ... when you know there’s nothing they can do ..." ... all i am trying to do here is bring it to chess.com's ATTENTION ... not end up wasting my time with trolls with nothing better to do than pick to pieces irrelevant aspects of a person's post.  Site-feedback seemed the most appropriate out of the choices of site feedback, in terms of USAGE ... a simple referral to the email, thank-you ... without the attitude about my supposed attitude , would also keep things simple.  Martin may well've simply not had much time to read through in fine-detail my messages ... no big problem ... but that does not make my posting frustrations any less valid in terms of not needing to have to repeat myself and clarify, when i've made it clear that i HAVE NOT thought ... that the crowns go up from NUMBERS , plural, of wins, as he's suggested, so the repetition of him staying as-so ... is becoming repetitive.  Everyone has a right for their posts to be read correctly and understood.  If that takes a few repetitions, no problem.  Expressing that you're having to repeat yourself, in itself, is no 'attitude' ... it's a COMMUNICATIONS DIFFICULTY , or how-one-is-received  expression of how much CARE, the reader, is putting into what you actually say ... and NOT ... what they IMAGINE.

 

In a similar way that you've imagined, that i "... know there’s nothing they can do ...".

 

Where did you get that from?

If you're not going to help with trying to work out WHY, the site is not registering 1-crown wins against AI ... then please just move on to the next comment please.

 

Exasperation / frustration "ugh still not listening" ... is neither condemning, nor personal, Martin may well be overloaded with the number of posts to have to view and read and make suggestions for ... in a short amount of time.  More than happy to find out that that's why i've been MISUNDERSTOOD here.  Trying to pretend as though a person isn't entitled to ask for proper understanding and should somehow accept IMAGINED-meaning instead of a person's true intent and meaning, is laughable, so yeah, please try to understand that i have tried to infer that i have not been UNDERSTOOD, by saying "ugh still not listening".  If that'd got up Martin's nose, he's fully free to express his own reaction without someone stepping in when thinking they should.

 

Besides, there is more than people in the forum could do, than "...suggesting something you may have missed."

 

Especially since that statement tries to bring attention to ME ... and not the problem.

 

Do you care more about trying to identify me as-something , MORE , than trying to work out what the problem with the site/games is?  That really doesn't help.

 

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FYI, Dangle, you facade 'of understanding' of my intent is also a bit rich coming from someone with a CLEARLY OFFENSIVE account-name / concept and indiscriminantly-aggressive  to-all-who-read-it  profile comment, this is YOUR profile page , of simply : "fork off" , to avoid the swearing filter.

 

Wow, what an opinion, 'to share' , i'm sure every reader of your profile page is truly-inspired by the genius-within.

 

how's THAT for whether or not a person has an attitude.

i do NOW, have an attitude ... and ONLY TOWARDS you ...

 

... since you've INTERRUPTED the attempt to clarify what's happening with the crowns-achievement-tier  system, and not attempted to try to ACTUALLY HELP with the problem,

 

so look ... can you tell the difference?

or is it all just  freedoms-of-opinion  within bro-deom?

 

news flash ... reality only PARTIALLY-consists of  'bro.s' .

 

The REST of reality ... which is MOST of it ... make no mistake ... does not operate on the spectrum of  Bro-deom  popularist-responses  and  interpretive-freedoms  that only-SOME Americans claim empowers you so.  If you think i can't chill, and WERE un-relaxed, you're wrong.  Identifying causes of website mis-behaviour(s), is a necessarily complex and time-consuming thing, and wasted time when trying, can be itself a massive problem for businesses trying to reduce costs and get things fixed ASAP.   Bro-trolls with opinions about others' attitudes ... hmmm ... yeah ... really don't help much on the TECHNICAL SIDE of things, most of the time.  Feel free to proove me wrong.

 

And FYI,  i've smoked more than enough weed in my time to know how to(relax).  And that's not models on TV pretending to swallow coke or a beer.  REAL weed.  I appreciate the possibility, but you're assuming i'm not.  Being PERSISTENT in your argument ... can be said to be  'not giving up'  ... or ... 'sticking to your guns' ... just as much as it might be interpreted as non-relaxed.

 

Websites not working the way they appear to be MEANT-TO ... is something that's the webmaster / IT-department's problem, bra ... so why should i care?

 

WELL , bra ... maybe it's because i STUDIED  IT and website design (and programming) ... with one or two twists of fate ... i'd be my JOB ... to be fixing websites.

( as well as blocking  bro-trolls  at every given opportunity. )

rodneywelsh

So in other words ... if Martin thinks i'm being personal, he's free to say so himself.  i have at no point tried to tell him how to do something ... yet that is exactly what you are doing to me.  DO YOU MIND?  Martin and i are still in the process of CLARIFYING what is and isn't happening, in terms of the conversation.  When you leave a forum post and come back to it ... often you forget past posts ... Martin's probably just dealing with so many that it's not in-one-file in his head so to speak, like it is in mine.  No problem - You're assuming i have it in for him in some way.  Wrong, and not-constructive, so yeah, do you mind?

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