Alcohol

What he said

Because one poster made an offhand remark about another poster, and that second poster can't let it go.

You clearly haven't tried "the best American beer". Between Sierra Nevada, New Belgium, Stone, Dogfish Head, Three Floyds, Bells, and Black Market Brewing, you'll find that "the best American beer" is at least as good as the beer found in the great beer areas of Germany, Britain & Belgium... unless you're trying to compare the tasteless industrial lagers being made by the soulless dinosaur corporations, in which case you need to come to the realization that you just don't like beer.

Interesting! I drink a lot of beers but I don't know those marks. Not available in France. When I was in Mexico, near El Paso, there were only Bud and Bud Light. Mexican Montezuma Breweries make some good beers though. Served with the salt around bottle's neck.

That's where I'm confused. Britain has it's bitters, milds, pale ales, porters & stouts; Germany has it's weissebiers, helles, dunkels & bocks; Belgian brewers refuse to be constricted to any kind of classifications, and have an amazing variety... and then you take the American breweries that make world-class German, British, Belgian and Czech styles, IN ADDITION TO our own styles such as the modern IPA, double IPA, imperial red ale, pale ale, amber ale, etc. etc. etc. Do you live in a beer wasteland? The quality of American craft beer has been proven in international beer competitions time and time again over the last decade-and-a-half. May I humbly suggest that you take the time to try more?

Old Style!

Nothing tastes as good as an Old Style at Wrigley.

I have had most of those great US beers. You should add Sam Adams and Anchor. But there is no way that they are collectively "at least as good" as German, Belgian, and/or British beer. If anything, they're on par, which is really saying quite a lot. Personally, I do not think the great US beer is yet on par with the great German or Belgian beers. (I don't know much about British beer.) But for sure it's close, and one can make an argument either way.

You don't think any of my posts are good?

To clarify:  No good can come of me mixing the two.

well, you can say that about any country, Britain makes German and Belgium style beer, as well as its own real ales.  Its just the Germans and Belgium's do a better job of it.

America does do bitters and IPAs, but i've just never tried one that would rank any higher than OK.  Its not that the beer is terrible, its not miller light (which I'd rank as the worst beer in the world on a side note) and its perfectly drinkable, its just nothing special.  

I fact, I think thats it, there are British and German beers that, if a pub has them on tap, i'd go out of my way to drink there, and when I find them on tap I get really excited, because they are a really special experience.  I've just never found a really special American beer.  

Perhaps i've just not drank in the right places, but things like fat tire (i think thats the name), Sierrra Nivana, Sam Adam, just leave me a bit cold.  Yes, they are fine, but nothing to get excited about.

Chess and then liquor, you're games will be slicker.

Liquor then chess...

...I forget the rest.

Never heard of someone got killed by a pissed chess player,playing chess on the net.I am sorry that you lost someone but your remark has nothing to do with this forum.

I can't play chess with or without drinking so why not JUST DRINK!

You have restored my faith in the Danish people.

I could not reliably tell the difference between Bud Lite, Miller Lite, and Coors Lite in a taste test. Note that I suspected this would happen. The more money a company spends to differentiate their product, the higher the likelyhood that the product does not stand on its own. (The Cobblepot Theorem)

I also could not reliably tell the difference between Sam Adams Boston Lager and Fat Tire. That did susprise me.

You would be surprised ozzie with the amount of people who can't tell if it is Whisky or Cognac when doing a blind taste.

The ease of that test would depend a lot on the spirit in question.  One of the Islay malts, or speyside would be pretty easy to tell apart from cognac.  But a sweeter, lighter whiskey might be tricker.  Laddich hardly tastes like whiskey at all, for example.

I can tell the difference between red and white wine in a blind taste test. Beyond that all bets are off.

Have not read any comments.  Friday night, 10pm, 5 brews deep and heading out!  If I come back here in the early am, I did not get "lucky".