Disappointing UI and the reason there are so many cheaters

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I'm gonna be real, chess.com is seriously lacking in that it does not incorporate a report button next to player names unlike what many smarter sites do. Infact, I've yet to figure out how to report someone (specifically [name removed - MOD]) who cheated with an engine in such a painfully obvious manner.

Thoughts?

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JaiRama wrote:

I'm gonna be real, chess.com is seriously lacking in that it does not incorporate a report button next to player names unlike what many smarter sites do. Infact, I've yet to figure out how to report someone (specifically [name removed - MOD]) who cheated with an engine in such a painfully obvious manner.

Thoughts?

Member Since: Nov 8, 2015

And you still dont know how to report someone?

And you forgot the site TOS?

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To discuss the matter of cheating further, or to learn more about cheat detection, please join the Cheating Forum: https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

 

Chess.com takes cheating very seriously: see https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-com-fair-play-and-cheat-detection, https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444879-fair-play-on-chess-com-what-you-need-to-know and https://www.chess.com/blog/DanielRensch/cheating-on-chesscom.


Cheaters are banned when they are detected.  There are various tools that are used to keep them from returning without permission; these tools are familiar to anyone who has run an online forum.


However, discussions of cheating in the main forum is not permitted, as it tends to become very heated and result in lots of public accusations, many of which are completely unfounded; you might be surprised how many cheating reports we get about low-rated players after a game that was a complete blunderfest. If all these reports were aired in public, it would just cause an ugly flame war. Therefore, I am locking this post.


To report a suspected cheater to the Support team, please select Report Abuse under the Help menu, or use this link: https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/emails/new. All reports are investigated, even if there is no immediate visible action.


Thanks,

MGleason - moderator

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BTW, I looked at the game that triggered this post.

Your opponent left book on move 9.  So 8 moves were known book moves.

Move 9 was castling in a position where castling was logical.

Move 10 was taking the free piece that you blundered.

Move 11 was taking the free pawn that was obviously unprotected.

Move 12 was responding to your threat to the bishop by trading it off.

Move 13 was moving the queen out of danger and putting you in check.

Move 14 was activating a rook and putting you in check.

Move 15 was continuing to attack the king and forcing mate in one.

Move 16 was an easy mate.

 

So there were 8 known book moves followed by 8 moves that would have been very easy for a low-rated player to find.  Even if your opponent didn't know that opening, the opening moves are all reasonably logical, following standard opening principles.

 

If you want to prove an opponent is cheating you need 1) a larger sample size and 2) moves that would be difficult for a human to spot.  A 16-move game where half of it is book and the rest is very straightforward tactics simply isn't sufficient.

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