I support this.
ELO system for Vote Chess
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I agree, even if a team has played 20 games and has a 100% win record, they won't even appear on the first page of the vote chess leaderboard, because teams like The Power of Chess, Fast Players Group, and Rapid chess have all played 500+ vote chess games (even though none of them is over 71% win). I think an ELO rating system is a great idea!
Apr 26, 2010
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I agree completely. It would make it more interesting for vote chess players if they knew where their team stands in the overall scheme of things. Also, the Vote Chess League Head Quarters and other vote chess tournaments would find it much easier to divide teams into divisions if we could look at their Glicko rating. Quite a few people have requested this feature over the last couple of years. Here is one of the earlier threads on this theme:
Vote chess rating instead of fixed scoring system
Ditto Riga - I think it's a great idea - shouldn't be too hard to implement ..... right staff? 
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Apr 26, 2010
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Do you actually understand the current system chess_boy and what is being requested here, or just randomly making a random comment?
Apr 26, 2010
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yes, I remember we beat a couple of the top teams and yet we remained right near the bottom of the ladder for some time because we hadn't played many games...
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Apr 26, 2010
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I'm happy that chess_boy is happy....
and really.. I know staff would like to fix a lot of the problems, fulfill many of the requests, but time and money is an issue... I can appreciate that.. I just hope that eventually some of the more really needed requests will be met.... like who sent the team challenge, automated locking dates, and introducing an ELO rating system... because zillions of team matches are being constantly sent... you could parallel it to airplanes taking off all around the world each day... they don't stop... same with the team match challenges... right as we speak another 20 are probably being sent... taking off... but the flights are a little bumpy and the landings are not perfect... but one step at a time and hopefully we will get there...
Apr 26, 2010
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P.S. and thanks to staff for the requests they have realised to date...
Apr 26, 2010
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#13
Another advantage of a Glicko rating for teams would be to help Admins in choosing which opponents to play against. If you could see every team's rating, it would be easier to find teams closer to your team's level. On the vote leaderboard, some weakish teams have consistently been playing against weak opposition and have a high win %, while other strong teams play only against other strong teams, and end up with a low win %. A Glicko system would make it clearer the strength of opposition that each team has faced.
On the programming side, linksspringer had worked up some scripts to strip out the results of each game from the HTML. The Glicko rating could be calculated based on the same formula used for Online Chess and Live Chess. It doesn't seem all that hard to do, and I'm sure a lot of vote chess players would be very interested in the results.
I'm very much in favour of some sort of change.
A few months ago the staff's response was that there were not enough games for an accurate rating, I don't know whether that has changed, but I suspect not, there must be many, many teams with fewer than 10 games played.
I've always been in favour of some sort of ladder system, wins move you up, losses move you down, the size of the movement depends on the relative staring positions of the teams.
rooperi wrote:
I'm very much in favour of some sort of change.
A few months ago the staff's response was that there were not enough games for an accurate rating, I don't know whether that has changed, but I suspect not, there must be many, many teams with fewer than 10 games played.
I've always been in favour of some sort of ladder system, wins move you up, losses move you down, the size of the movement depends on the relative staring positions of the teams.
ELO ratings
Apr 27, 2010
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There are at least 40 teams now that have played over 30 games, so the ratings for those teams might be pretty accurate. For other teams, even a provisional rating would give you some idea. As I understand it, in Online Chess and Live Chess, you receive a rating right from the very first game. Glicko also takes into account the number of games you have played when calculating how much your rating fluctuates with each new game. Chess is very lucky to have such interesting rating systems because not all sports do. Finding out your rating is a part of the game's appeal.
Well, if there is enough data, then a rating system seems logical.
Anything is better than the current system.
As mentioned several times and on several threads:
Vote chess rating instead of fixed scoring system
I completely agree with this idea! :-)
The current Vote Leaderboard just measures the group activity in terms of number of wins and is more like a Activityboard. Even a group with 50% win rate can top this Leaderboard if they just play many many matches. So, groups are motivated to go after quantity rather than quality.I hear that some group admins even have created a dummy group and play against it to garner more points.
What do Chess.com members and staff think about having ELO system for vote chesss (and for team matches)?