@cROOKed, there is a way to ban somebody using cookie bans :) Much harder to get rid of, and much harder to find a loophole. If a member gets caught cheating, Chess.com can attach a cookie to the cheater's page, which can track if they try to create a new account.
Eradication of Cheating on Chess.com
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RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Macer; I'm disagreing with the OP. And I think chess.com will too, for a variety of legalities. To keep the site intact, how about this. Everybody can have a free account. You can only play in non-rated tournaments. If you want to play in rated tournaments, you must provide credit card INFO. You wont be charged, IF your not cheating.
Yeah, I'm OK with that. The only point I'm trying to make is that the OP's solution is impractical.
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Macer; I'm disagreing with the OP. And I think chess.com will too, for a variety of legalities. To keep the site intact, how about this. Everybody can have a free account. You can only play in non-rated tournaments. If you want to play in rated tournaments, you must provide credit card INFO. You wont be charged, IF your not cheating.
thats actually a reasonable addition to my idea.. totally free and anonymous people can play only unrated... rated play requires your credit card info to maintain security against cheating.. good one man
cROOKed_KNIGHT wrote:
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Macer; I'm disagreing with the OP. And I think chess.com will too, for a variety of legalities. To keep the site intact, how about this. Everybody can have a free account. You can only play in non-rated tournaments. If you want to play in rated tournaments, you must provide credit card INFO. You wont be charged, IF your not cheating.
thats actually a reasonable addition to my idea.. totally free and anonymous people can play only unrated... rated play requires your credit card info to maintain security against cheating.. good one man
He was only talking about tournaments. Free members can still play rated games - they just can't play in rated tournaments unless they agree to provide creidt card info.
forget tournaments.. that should apply to all games
tournaments are hardly played at all compared to the volume of single games by members in live chess
Try to link the legitimacy to the USCF. Also chess.com would not have to prove in court that you cheated to bill you. They could just say, you violated the policies of the site. Like a morals clause.
and who cares about free membership decline... free membership is only bait to get you to pay for the extra stuff here anyway
O, and to the OP: do u care to respond to post #28? After all, you did accuse me of cheating and posting nonsense, and I responded to both. Maybe you would care to respond back?
cROOKed_KNIGHT wrote:
and who cares about free membership decline... free membership is only bait to get you to pay for the extra stuff here anyway
Exactly. So if there are fewer new free members, then that means there are fewer people to bait.
cROOKed_KNIGHT, the main point of this is that providing credit card info will decrease their profit. Plain and simple. There are tens of thousands that join each day, maybe several cheaters get caught each day. Does the thousands of potential customers leaving get canceled out by the measly fines?
macer please leave.. this isnt about you, stop being a child who craves attention.. that is yet another characteristic of a cheater anyway, so quit while youre ahead
Macer; We're not trying to attack you. We know you don't have a card. We're trying to cut back on the amount of cheating in rated tournaments. People who want to prove that the're good, have to put their money where the're mouth is.
The1899Club wrote:
macer75 wrote:
cROOKed_KNIGHT wrote:
anyone here putting this idea down is more than likely a repeat cheater, and is scared that im ruining their evil enterprise.. suck it up, i hope that the staff reads only the original post and none of your negative nonsense
Hmm... me? A repeated cheater? Take a look at my rating and my games and see if u still think that. I'm only offerring some very practical considerations. Think about it: you're creating a free account on a website for the first time, and you don't know whether or not you'll like it, but you want to try it out. In the process of creating your account, you're asked for your credit card information. If you take the time to read the explanation as to why (which a lot of people don't) you know it's free, but are you going to proceed and give them your information, or are you just going to say, this is way too complicated, I have to give my credit card information just to register an account, and I'm not even sure whether I'll like this site, so I might as well just leave and try to find another chess site that doesn't ask for me credit information.
I understand your point, but why does that matter. This site is already large and established; it can afford to be pickier about new members.
Well, if the ultimate goal of chess.com as a company is to maximize revenue (which it should be), then it shouldn't be picky about new members.
Macer has been nominated for the troll of the month. Crooked, stop with the accusations of cheating, and stop trying to argue this topic. You have heard what the community thinks, and you are not thinking of accepting our opinions. This is turning into a Daeth thread.
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Macer; We're not trying to attack you. We know you don't have a card. We're trying to cut back on the amount of cheating in rated tournaments. People who want to prove that the're good, have to put their money where the're mouth is.
Yes, I understand that. Post #24 was what I was talking about. I know you're not trying to attack me, and I'm not trying to attack anyone either.
would you people start being reasonable.. who is going to pay a lawyer whatever it costs to argue against a credit card company's lawyer as well as chess.com's legal representation over a charge of $10? which btw im pretty sure is the cost of a premium membership for one month, and was my originally suggested fine for cheating.
How do the gambling sites on line work?? Don't they have some kind of business model?? Kids can't spend money they dont have with free memberships to gamble. You want a chess site to be free. But you also want to police the cheating.
anyone here putting this idea down is more than likely a repeat cheater, and is scared that im ruining their evil enterprise.. suck it up, i hope that the staff reads only the original post and none of your negative nonsense
Hmm... me? A repeated cheater? Take a look at my rating and my games and see if u still think that. I'm only offerring some very practical considerations. Think about it: you're creating a free account on a website for the first time, and you don't know whether or not you'll like it, but you want to try it out. In the process of creating your account, you're asked for your credit card information. If you take the time to read the explanation as to why (which a lot of people don't) you know it's free, but are you going to proceed and give them your information, or are you just going to say, this is way too complicated, I have to give my credit card information just to register an account, and I'm not even sure whether I'll like this site, so I might as well just leave and try to find another chess site that doesn't ask for me credit information.