Express if you like or do not like the new version of the site

Vey good summary, @spacebus, and you probably have nailed the reasons. I certainly can find your explanation very feasible.

I refuse to believe that chess.com deliberately set out to estrange ME.

But estrange me they did and the Dude's of this world, and many others who do not even know of the existence of this very informative thread, where all you need to know and understand is contained here.

Thsi is especially true of the last 10 pages or so.

Fortunately the V3 guys do not butt in anymore as they think we have been discredited, and V3 is the future, and @camter and his ilk are the past.

Well, their absence, the V3'ers, has enabled us to really nail what is wrong with V3.

That pagination issue is one they have to get rid of, if nothing else, because the lack of it is ruining the site.

A fix there is a necessary, but not sufficient, need to start getting back on the right track.

S_L_O_W...

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/loading-1?page=1#last_comment

"@spacebus"  I vote Spacebux has to change to this handle.   Spacebus has a nice ring to it.

Anywho, yes, 'bux's point is taken.  Unfortunately what's happening here is part of a wider trend that I've been observing in the wider world:  Everything from the decontenting of products as disparate as the quantity of ground coffee in a tin to the materials making up an Ikea SKU (never mind the desecration of toilet paper, which at one point, one needed X amount of and one now needs 3X of for the same task) to the slow eviceration of our educational system, to the deliberate denial of utility and function in websites toward a "pretty" paradigm that serves merely to be thumb sweeping for mobile users.

It sadden me to discover the growing ignorance about me that almost seems to be planned for in the most diabolical of means in order to merely aquiesce to the extraction of more profit.

After all, the easiest profit to be made is from a population that knows nothing.

  In the end, we'll be monkeys with guns and nothing more.

It was happening to me on V2 and V3...is a little better now, but still molasses.

Spacebus... I'll take it over Spacebud.  ..as long as I get to drink coffee.

An 'E' way. 

IT people are some of the most hard-headed folk there are on the planet.  Every IT grad coming out of school that purports itself to be near the top of the IT feeder-chain comes with an ingrained sentiment that what he/she has been taught IS nothing short of the most beneficial programming methods and constructs known to man.  Second only to God himself.  And God doesn't code much.  So, they appear on the scene, fresh out of school, fully confident that what they now know will be as sellable as snake oil.  All they need to do is find someone gullible enough to hire them out at $65~$200 / hour for a project, and they will bestow the world with the graces of their programming prowess.

Farbeit for someone to point out they have little to no concept of real-world business issues or marketing skills.  But, that does not phase them one iota.  Just look at Mark Zuckerberg... or any of the other rich Millenials that have made $$$$ off of a newly fashioned internet idea.  Heck, just cyphon off of Facebook's success and let the payments just roll on in. 

Who cares that Twitter has lowered revenue forecasts year-after-year? Just hitch your wagon to the coat-tails of Facebook and let their momentum just deliver bundles of money to your door without even asking.  You know somewhere, that same someone, in that same coffee shop conversation with Erik a while ago probably whispered those sweetest of three letters in to his ears: ...I  ...P  ...O.   And that was it.  The death of chess.com as we knew it had been uttered.

@Chungle -- the growing ignorance you speak of ... its amazing to witness the increbidle power it holds over so many these days.  You can throw datum upon datum, factoid upon factoid at these people and it will not sway their motivation or take their eyes off the prize for a second.  We're now months in to v3 being the main of chess.com.  STAFF will whisper to you, yeah... we know v3 isn't perfect, but hey, its where chess.com is going.  How many staff were brave enough to tell the Capt. of the Titanic that it might behoove them to slow down a bit in the icy waters of the north Atlantic?  Even after 1,000s of comments in this "Off Topic" conversation alone, few seem emboldened enough to approach Erik with real suggestions to correct the sinking ship.  Flank speed.  We'll show those icebergs who's boss!!

v2 >> v3

Just look at a sample of hot topics listed:

It's not everyday you see so many, but everyday you see at least a few topics started or continued, suggesting that not all is well in Paradise.  Today seems to have been rather exceptional.  I'm guessing Gambit-Man's not the only one with 'connection' issues as some monkeyswithguns like to suggest.

Great post, @spacebux. Sorry about the typing, it won't happen all that often, I promite.

Which is the next planet we visit?

Hope they have a Gloria Jeans! Will they serve promite?

I just logged on (to V2 with no additional clicks for once) and virtually all the latest posts were complaints; a lot of angry Members.

One theme throughout seems to be the lack of response from Staff or Mods...arrogance or incompetence, or something else?

That's funny, i asked staff member David a Q 31 hours ago right here in this topic, one which might just about keep me here if it's answered in the right way... guess what...

He's on vaxation?

Double entendre typo, mes amis.

Seulement @camter!~

After an extended period of silence, what seems to be a lack of interaction by staff providing members with the latest great news...

Is a major announcement pending ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzJVRf63r0k

Current Threads :

it doesnt start

trouble connecting to server

OS app doesn't work fix it !

This website is an absolute joke

My chess app not working

IOS app doesn't work fix it !

Games not loading on IPad & IPhone

website and app not working on ipad

It is now on the front page

which page is the front page?

Can't find it even if I MAY have found the "front" page.

Does domething which scrolls constitute a "page"?

Can't fix something thst may not be there.

What does the announcement say, if it indeed exists? 

www.chess.com   But I am in V2

https://www.chess.com/blog/News/chess-com-dev-update-june-9-2017

The question about V4 I presume?

Maybe he didn't see it amongst all the superfluous fluff this Thread now seems to attract...

that's the one... the post was made shortly after his and he was still online when i asked...

I would hazard a guess that Mods are under strict orders on certain subjects...and the leadership has been very quiet of late

Today seems to be a real disaster for the Site's reputation.

The following voices of reason:

Preparedness

gambit-man

ProfessorPownall

Spacebux

BISHOP_e3

JustADude80

robbie_1969

WBFISHER  

chungle

and a few others have been warning of this day that Preparedness just spoke of for a long while.

We have worn ridecule, abuse, being put on a remote corner, and arrogant dismissal. Skumming comes to mind, but that was not the only taunt. 

Well, today, the place has erupted.Who from? People they thought were content.

Users who want to play Chess can't because they cannot load games.

And that is the first service that the millions of people came here to get.

Time for the management to, if possible, backtrack,

Come clean. Act fast. Explain what has gone wrong, and tell them that you are having a look at what you can do to restore as much of the good things as you can, and have a team, if possible, which will try and get a V2 feel and performance back.

get rid of the scrolling, put back the menus that help you find things and the old ways to the best of your abilties.

Impossible?

If it is truly impossible, then it is impossible, and nothing can be done to restore the trashing of your reputation that happened today.