edit: disregard .... misread that last post.
Express if you like or do not like the new version of the site
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Martin_Stahl wrote:
anpu3 wrote:
Thanks, Martin. I'll remain patient while things work out over time.
Just finished upgrading and FF 52 also works as expected.
Do you have any plugins or security software that might be blocking some of the scripts? Also, I don't know if you want to try what Trevor-D did, but trying with a new FF profile might help.
Martin, you may have missed my subsequent post, but the new profile fix only worked until this morning, when the lack of the icon returned.
I must agree with Anpu3, this seems to be a case of the tail wagging the dog...if V2 works with our browsers, we should not have to go to extraordinary measures to get V3 to do likewise!
Nov 22, 2016
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#1005
erik wrote:
I found the dot!! (Only when you use CLASSIC mode, which sets the background to classic and top menu. And only in firefox. Argh. I'll get it fixed )
Alas! The Eye of the Abyss shall looketh me no further..! 
As to Trevor & Anpu3's issues -- unfortunately, when you move to a higher (also read "newer") set of code instructions, such as HTML version 5, not all browsers are set to incorporate & process the new instructions. Some implment them later than others. And some implement them differently than others.
Via https://html5test.com/ Moziila's Firefox scores 466 / 550 pts. of HTML5 compatibility. Torch score 492. Opera 496. And, Chrome does slightly better with 499 / 550. No browser yet supports HTML5 perfectly---they all have short-comings at one level or another. The problems arise when one coder is coding entirely based on one browser's code base. Though the new CSS framework works perfectly well in Chrome, it may be buggy (as we have seen) in other browsers either due to lack of support for some features or other browsers just implement the code in a different manner.
Until HTML5 support is as universal as say HTML4 (which was released way back in 1999...), such mishaps are going to be existant. We did not see these in V2, mostly because V2 was coded in the simpler, older revisions of HTML4. HTML4, however, does not have all the coding constructs that V3 wants to use, hence the move to include HTML5 in the new release.
Perhaps in another year, HTML5 implementation among browsers will be more universal than it is today. That's just one tangent we're seeing with V3-acceptance in this forum.
Nov 22, 2016
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#1006
Trevor-D wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
anpu3 wrote:
Thanks, Martin. I'll remain patient while things work out over time.
Just finished upgrading and FF 52 also works as expected.
Do you have any plugins or security software that might be blocking some of the scripts? Also, I don't know if you want to try what Trevor-D did, but trying with a new FF profile might help.
Martin, you may have missed my subsequent post, but the new profile fix only worked until this morning, when the lack of the icon returned.
I must agree with Anpu3, this seems to be a case of the tail wagging the dog...if V2 works with our browsers, we should not have to go to extraordinary measures to get V3 to do likewise!
No, I didn't miss it. While I can't say for sure what the problem is, I wonder if something on your end, plugin/security software/?, may be interfering with the site's javascript code in some manner.
Nov 22, 2016
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#1007
otherdog-101 wrote:
Great stuff. They just blew it all away!
For them what is wondering what this is all about, otherdog posted a great clip about the famous movie that had "Tara's Theme" as its music.
Not only the South, but lots of other things have gone with the breezes.
Frankly, my dear!
batgirl wrote:
Forward a screenshot of the missing icon(s) to the developers.
If that rather perfunctory comment was aimed at me, then I have been troubleshooting this issue for some time now with one of your software developers, Martyn Chamberlin.
I have done everything asked of me...provided details of my computer settings/versions, changed my browser, reloaded profile etc, to try and fix a problem of chess.com's making.
I'm a paying customer and am now officially pissed off and done, good evening to you.
Nov 22, 2016
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#1009
Spacebux wrote:
Firefox 52 is at 479, so it is improving. 
Nov 22, 2016
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#1010
erik wrote:
I found the dot!! (Only when you use CLASSIC mode, which sets the background to classic and top menu. And only in firefox. Argh. I'll get it fixed )
And by the way, I read almost every post of this forum. It's helpful for me! We're all working like crazy to help address all of your concerns - all of them!
It really helps if you can be specific about what you don't like. If you just say "I don't like it!", I hear you... but I don't know what to do. If you say "I want my homepage to look like my old homepage" or "I think the font is too bold" or "When I play Daily Chess it's slow" - that all helps me!
And as an FYI - 85% of users are now on V3. We have been tracking games played, members logged in, etc. And the trends after the "big change" are actually - as we had hope - on their way UP.
Now, that doesn't mean that we are done Or that V2 is going away (not for a long while still). I'm just saying that this forum thread doesn't represent the majority voice. We get a ton of "Love it" comments. And a lot of people who just went on with it and all is well.
However, YOU guys are the ones I want to win over! YOU are some of the longest-standing, most passionate users. That's why I'm here reading, creating tasks, commenting, messaging, and really working hard to figure out what you are saying. I know that you are saying "I want V2!!!" and I'm am trying to translate that into actions. There is a reason we aren't using Windows 95 anymore (Rest in peace, buddy! I loved you!!) - that's just not how software works. So I'm trying to convert your love of V2 into specific actions we can take to making V3 better - and more like V2 in the ways that matter.
Thank you for your insights and your patience and I hope you will continue to enjoy Chess.com (V3 or V2!) for a long time.
Hey Thanks! We appreciate it!
Nov 22, 2016
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#1011
Speed issues which seemed to gone away the other night are back... worst of all is when scrolling through pages of game archives... they take longer to load than full res pictures...
LOG IN GLITCH - There's a horrible log in glitch at the moment where you log in once and then you have to log in again. Then I click on switch on switch to the old site and I have to log in again and then it throws me back to v3! Round and round it goes......................... aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
You're killing my mind
Try clearing cookies and cache. Can't guaranttee that will help....
No I do not like new format
Nov 22, 2016
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#1016
Spacebux wrote:
erik wrote:
I found the dot!! (Only when you use CLASSIC mode, which sets the background to classic and top menu. And only in firefox. Argh. I'll get it fixed )
and Spacebux wrote:
Alas! The Eye of the Abyss shall looketh me no further..!
and since V3 was created apparently in a way to accommodate this, hiding it in its circumferent dark colour and built in with all its ieroglyphic icons accompanied by exhausting hovering in order to diminish attention on a fragmented
and magnified V3 homepage in order to start infinite scrolling to make it work, I can safely assume that there is no need for the monsterous V3 format any longer and hopefully we will return immediately to the Tried, True and Innocent V2 only
and we will bury V3 forever in order to start play chess again
erik wrote:
And as an FYI - 85% of users are now on V3. We have been tracking games played, members logged in, etc. And the trends after the "big change" are actually - as we had hope - on their way UP.
Umm.. 85% means 15% has actively taken the step to change back to v2?
That's like ... 2 million people (assuming chess.com has the claimed 15M users). Looks like v3 is even more impopular than I thought!
Personally I think many of the features brought on by v3 are very nice, and will lift the site to a new level.
I think the reluctance to adoption is not at all technical but ... call it social.
Some people (esp. older men ... and chess players are very much in that demographic) do not always like new things. Studies show that old men is usually the last group that accept changes or something new.
Now, the new things imposed on us are:
- New design, that we are not used to. The old one has the appeal that we know what is where, what all buttons do (and if not, they have a descriptive name and not an abstract symbol), and it does not give any negative surprises.
- New technical features -- requires an upgrade of browser (or operating system in my case). These both also impose new things onto us. In my case, my browsers and computer work just the way I want now. Spending a day or a week to make something maybe work the way as the old, does not appear productive.
- Another (again, call it social) issue is that the change is "forced". Some people take it negatively when others try to control them or make decisions for them, and make it a point to resist the change .. just because it was not their own decision.
Now, I really hope you guys (chess.com) can make v3 well received. The new features seem quite nice. And as an engineer I know that old code needs to be re-engineered after a while. The old hacks, and tricks gets heavier and heavier to maintain and update.
Nov 22, 2016
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#1018
Of course the trend is up. There is no other way for it to go. V2 is going away, so the only choice we have is to live with V3. That does not make it a good thing. A good thing, would be if we did have a choice. I bet if you took a vote, V2 vs V3, that V2 would win. I am one of those old men talked about in the previous post. I don't have a problem with change, when the change is for the better. We are on post #1134 far, and most of what I have seen is negative for V3.
Nov 22, 2016
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#1019
Sometimes I can't find where you LOGIN for the new site. ???????? That seems strange to me.
Just thinking...
Nov 22, 2016
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#1020
Ι remind you Game explorer is a main issue; I guess many people who pay membership in order to use the game explore they are interested to know that
Spacebux wrote:
without additional info, what do all those numbers mean? Is the Other Player(s) white or am I white in those percentages? What does the "FIND" button do? What about those hieroglyhics? why more scrolling?!?!? Remember my issue with scrolling into an abyss in V3? This is another one of those moments.
Game Explorer in V3 is hardly what I would call intuitive.
For comparison--V3:
and, the original, V2:
I 100x prefer the original, V2 version. No explanantion required, all fields are LABELLED. Information is succinct. No scrolling necessary. The V3 version is a downgrade.
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Also in v2 game explorer was educating too apart from intuitive because it gives you a table of the related openings where we are talking about the essence of chess education, Ι have spent many hours learning openings from there this table with related openings does no longer exists it has gone with the disastrous wind of change of V3 A00: Mieses Opening |
| A00: Polish Opening |
| A00: Van Geet Opening |
| A00: Hungarian Opening |
| A00: Sodium Attack |
| A00: Amar Opening |
| A00: Anderssen Opening |
| A00: Van't Kruijs Opening |
| A00: Clemenz Opening |
| A00: Saragossa Opening |
| A00: Ware Opening |
| A00: Barnes Opening |
| A00: Kadas Opening |
| A00: Grob Opening |
| A01: Nimzowitsch-Larsen Attack |
| A02: Bird's Opening |
| A04: Reti Opening |
| A10: English Opening |
| A40: Queen's Pawn Opening |
| B00: King's Pawn Opening |
I just did a lot of hovering. I didn't find "flip board" or "resize" for that matter. Someone is going to have to grab me by the back of my neck & stick my nose in it.