Petition "Force resign"

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Azukikuru

It's December Fools now.

Cystem_Phailure
Azukikuru wrote:

It's December Fools now.


Anybody remember the old Pogo comic strip?  And Churchy LaFemme's consternation when he discovered that Friday the 13th fell on Wednesday that month?  Cool

0_o-CheCKsTer

thx guys, this just made my day Wink . hilarious.

0_o-CheCKsTer
Azukikuru wrote:
Barefoot_Player wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something.

... waffles?



Priceless. Laughing

AndTheLittleOneSaid

I'd rather a "force checkmate" option.

TheGrobe

That option exists, but you have to work for it.

Writch

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planeden
Barefoot_Player wrote:

So what other factors would indicate a forced resignation is to be issued?

These are other factors I considered, along with their "refutations".

If you see a mate, why not play it out?

If a person is much lower rated then why play the game? Just use the forced resignation button at the start so you don't waste time?

Its hard to see what other factors would compel a player to use a forced resignation button. Maybe I'm missing something. Clue me in! ;)

 

Barefoot_Player


based on the three move rule, i think it will work something like:

1.  e4 e5  2. d3 Ke7  3. Nf3 Kf6 - Black wins by forced resignation. 

the benefit to chess is that it would balance the unfair advantage that white automatically has since white moves first.  people have been trying to solve this issue in the forums as long as my avatar has been alive.  people have suggested black gets two first moves, coin flips to decide which side starts, black gets to tell white which piece to move first, and that white gets a minor electric shock to start the games so the mind is foggy for the first two or three moves.  (ok, perhaps i just made up that last one and thinking more about it, it would be tricky in correspondence chess since multiple shocks may be required.)  anyway, i think this represents the most logical equalizer. 

planeden
Fezzik wrote: 
If White has two zz's in his name or is named either InigoMontoya or Buttercup, White gets to claim resignation as soon as White has played his or her third move.

great, now full_windowz_zeven- would have a huge advantage. 

omnipaul
Fezzik wrote:

I think you shouldn't get to claim a resignation until after both sides have made three moves. That way, as Adorjan claimed, Black is Ok! Black makes his move and claims the resignation, then hits his clock, completing the move.

However there's the Florin-Guilder Exception:

If White has two zz's in his name or is named either InigoMontoya or Buttercup, White gets to claim resignation as soon as White has played his or her third move.


However, someone by the name of The_Dread_Pirate_Roberts, Westley, or The_Man_in_Black may continue to play moves after any forced resignation.  After all, he's only mostly resigned.

Cystem_Phailure
Fezzik wrote:

Black makes his move and claims the resignation, then hits his clock, completing the move.


Black initiates the demand for the resignation, but since the actual act of resigning is done by White, maybe Black should hit his clock and then claim the resignation, so White actually resigns on his own move.

ultimifier

dumb idea

omnipaul

I'm curious, Fezzik.  What do you do if, while playing white in a game while locked in mortal combat with your enemy, and they respond c5 to your 1. e4?

jim995

This is unfair; (assuming it only works when you are ahead material) what if the computer incorrectly calculates the position, allowing you to do it when losing? And only for certain paid members makes it unfair, since they will have an advantage over the others. Many games are lost when the player is winning, so he/she relaxes a bit and makes a game-costing blunder.

Knightvanguard
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

Anybody remember the old Pogo comic strip?  And Churchy LaFemme's consternation when he discovered that Friday the 13th fell on Wednesday that month?  


 I do.  Pogo was great.  "We have found the enemy and he is us ."  - Pogo

As far as the resignation botton goes, why not create a Resignation Group and then all of you in favor of it could have your fun and everyone else could continue to play CHESS.

 

planeden
jim995 wrote:

This is unfair; 


keeping with the princess bride theme - "life's not fair highness, anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something". 

quick show of hands, how many people actually think this is a serious debate?

Writch
omnipaul wrote:
Fezzik wrote:

I think you shouldn't get to claim a resignation until after both sides have made three moves. That way, as Adorjan claimed, Black is Ok! Black makes his move and claims the resignation, then hits his clock, completing the move.

However there's the Florin-Guilder Exception:

If White has two zz's in his name or is named either InigoMontoya or Buttercup, White gets to claim resignation as soon as White has played his or her third move.


However, someone by the name of The_Dread_Pirate_Roberts, Westley, or The_Man_in_Black may continue to play moves after any forced resignation.  After all, he's only mostly resigned.


 You keep using that word^^. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Writch
planeden wrote: 
quick show of hands, how many people actually think this is a serious debate?

 You are just trying to count the number of fingers on my right hand, aren't you?

Cystem_Phailure
Writch wrote:
omnipaul wrote:
Fezzik wrote:

I think you shouldn't get to claim a resignation until after both sides have made three moves. That way, as Adorjan claimed, Black is Ok! Black makes his move and claims the resignation, then hits his clock, completing the move.

However there's the Florin-Guilder Exception:

If White has two zz's in his name or is named either InigoMontoya or Buttercup, White gets to claim resignation as soon as White has played his or her third move.


However, someone by the name of The_Dread_Pirate_Roberts, Westley, or The_Man_in_Black may continue to play moves after any forced resignation.  After all, he's only mostly resigned.


 You keep using that word^^. I do not think it means what you think it means.


This should be good.  OK, what do you think it means?

planeden
Writch wrote:
omnipaul wrote:
Fezzik wrote:

I think you shouldn't get to claim a resignation until after both sides have made three moves. That way, as Adorjan claimed, Black is Ok! Black makes his move and claims the resignation, then hits his clock, completing the move.

However there's the Florin-Guilder Exception:

If White has two zz's in his name or is named either InigoMontoya or Buttercup, White gets to claim resignation as soon as White has played his or her third move.


However, someone by the name of The_Dread_Pirate_Roberts, Westley, or The_Man_in_Black may continue to play moves after any forced resignation.  After all, he's only mostly resigned.


 You keep using that word^^. I do not think it means what you think it means.


nice one