Sick and tired of time wasters

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TheYear9876

yes i know this is a question thats keeps coming up but why DO players insist on playing on in hopelessly lost postiions?  and don;t tell me that its up to them when they resign that isnt  really an answer.i  alway resign  as soon as its obvious there is no point in playing on.i need to use all my limited brain power on games where i have at least some chance. so come on peeps  RESIGN  . stop being  selfish and holding everyone else up  ( in tourneys ) YellSmile

Deranged
boardGremlin wrote:

It's not finished...   There should be another set of time-limits as well as the 1-3 days time limit.  24, 18 & 12 hours comes to mind.  So those that want to go for 1-3 days can still do so, but there should be this other option.  12 hours is enough time to make just one move...


So you make a move, go to bed, sleep in a little and by the time you wake up you've lost on time?

-X-

Reading these threads wastes a lot of my time. I'm sick and tired of them.

kco

so..we are sick and tired of the sick and tired who complaining about nothing ? 

Timotheous

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what about space wasters?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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or space-time wasters?

gambit13

lol

-X-
Timotheous wrote:

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what about space wasters?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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or space-time wasters?


 This post is a space-time waster. It took up a lot of space and it took me a long time to figure out what was going on. I'm sick and tired of it!Yell

DivineStyler

I regularly avoid certain games that I feel stuck on or just generally not excited about. I come back to them later and maybe I find something, maybe I don't.

You have full control over the time limits. I usually play 3 days minimum per move, allowing me the freedom to take my time.

Mr_Huntsburg

Currently, you can resolve this problem by staying away from the 3 day plus time limits. Those T/L's are great for the business traveller or the person whom does not have the time to make a move every day. But for most of us, they are way too slow.

But, there might be a solution. We could ask Chess.com to place an "overall time limit" on games. Sorta like OTB play. For example, a game would start and you have 30 days to make your first 40 moves. After that, there could be a secondary T/L kick in, say 10 moves in 10 days. This would prevent games form lasting forever.

Any thoughts?

kco

this has been suggested before

Azukikuru
crissxcross wrote:

If there is a 'claim draw' button which pops up when a draw is claimable, then why not a 'claim win' button when the win is irrevocable?....eg K + Q v K


Because some low-rated players may accidentally stalemate their opponent's lone king.

Aranyi

I don´t understand your anger. There are enough chess players who are happy with a 3 days move rule. So am i. At this moment I´m at home. But next week I will be out for 2 a 3 days to do my work. No internet no login at chess.com.

PLSCPlayLearnShare

Um, I never played the 3 day games, but what I gather is that your opponent has 3 days to make his move, whereas you have to make it immediately, and that is the cause for your sickness and tiredness. Have I misunderstood it?

boardGremlin

OK, I'm going to give up on this one, as maybe it's not relevant what the time limit is (within reason), but I still think there's a case to be said against those members that have no other games to go to (correspondence games) other than the one they are playing against you, and yet take forever to make the next move.

Martin_Stahl

It doesn't matter how long it takes to make the move. If you signed up for 3 days per move then both players have the right to take the full time allotted. It doesn't matter if they have 1 game or 1000 games to make moves in. If you don't like that a player can take all their time on a move then don't play games at that time control. It is a simple as that.

If you were in an OTB tournament situation you couldn't complain that your opponent was taking forever to make their move (with very few exceptions). You agreed to the time control when you offered or accepted the challenge and you have that accept the fact that there will be some players that will use all their time.

Mr_Huntsburg

This sure has been a heated discussion. It just shows how frustrated us members are with the "slow players". I now try to stay away from tourneys that have a T/L of 3 days or more per move, as those tourney's will last a very long time.

I just hope that Chess.com will at least discuss the option of having a max time limit as I discussed above. I don't know if it would work, but I feel that it is worth a try. An experimental tourney would be great to see if it is feasible.

Thanks again

musicalhair

The "Claim Win" botton has to be the funniest idea in this thread.

 

So if some computer rates a position +1.64 we should just click the button?

 

Don't "claim win", win.  Prove you can win it by winning it every time.  It is a game not a science.  You can't run to some previous example of how the position was won and simply claim it.  There is a big art to swindling supposed won games.  I beat 2 rooks with a rook and two pawns that had to cross more than half the board to queen.  Win the won position, don't whine the won position.

 

And I think most people would agree that especially in turn based chess most games are lost by moving too fast instead of really digging deeper into the position to understand it.

 

Play "live" chess and join the people that whine about players that think for 5 minutes on a move, or that take a bathroom break or get a cup of coffee in the next room during the game.  Oh, and you can add "his clock ain't moving but mine is" to your set list of tunes you can sing here in the forums.

 

This fixation with other people's moving is wasted here on chess.com.  Please walk around Times Square in NYC and yell "MOVE" at all the tourists lollygagging around.  When I have to walk from studio to theater or instrument repair shop or something and have to cross time square it is like having to walk knee deep in mud and muck through a swamp it is so slow.  People got things to do.  That is where the "move" problem is-- not here on chess.com.

Dragec
crissxcross wrote:

If there is a 'claim draw' button which pops up when a draw is claimable, then why not a 'claim win' button when the win is irrevocable?....eg K + Q v K

In the days of postage correspondence chess, the 'losing party' would simply stop to tender moves, wanting to stop wasting time and money.

At chess.com not. The 'losing party' can even still win by virtue of the fact that his opponent can still time out, or am I wrong there?

Why not cater for both? those who like to carry on as before and those who would like to see a change, each with its own points allocation?


 Maybe because "claim draw" is according to the law of chess, and "claim win" isn't?

Article 1.2. - basic rules of play says it all, checkmate is the objective of the game, and it ends the game. Wink

So if your opponent will not resign, you have to end the game in the orthodox manner, by checkmating the opponent.

There's no "claim win" in that picture.

http://www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=124&view=article 

Hugh_T_Patterson

I understand your frustration. However, there are alternatives to this, including live chess. When you have so many people in different time zones, you have slow games. I find having 15 to 25 games going at once solves the problem, but this has its own set of problems.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Once again there are those who pretend that users who intentionally stall specific games do not exist.