Please forgive my feeble attempt at humor, but when I go on vacation this weekend some of those games, I'm winning. Hope those opponents don't report me.
Lol, I'm sure they wont. And I certainly wouldn't report anyone going on vacation or even moan about it. My moan is very specific :D
Nothing unfair about...it is allowed. Hey, many reasons why it happens, and many reasons why someone may want to be away from chess for awhile. No reason to dwell on maybe this...or maybe that. I just play my games...and let the other guy do the same...if he wants to go on vacation..so what? He is free to do so...regardless of the move agreements...like I say, it is allowed.
Don't know why it frustrates you OP...relax, start another game if you wish...no need to stress over things you have no control over...let it be...live, and let live.
All the best to all, and enjoy the start of the world championship chess match.
Hi jesterville,
Not sure you have fully understood my post. Just to point out I have no problem with people taking vacation time. The frustration comes from, logging on to chess.com, making no moves (even though you have games short on time) logging off (not setting your vacation status) and then letting automatic protection kick in later. Then doing that, at least, every other day. This is not going away from chess for a while on vacation.
It is that very specific point that frustrates me. I watched one of my opponents do this today and have watched that same person do it a number of times. That part of it I think is the unfair part.
Thanks for your input.
When people are on vacation, their status shouldn't show up as "online". By hiding-online-status, their tardiness in moving would not cause concern. After all, do-players-have-the-right-to-know-when-opponents-are-online ?
I'm in full support of the ability to optionally hide your online status. Like whether or not you're actual location (based on your IP) shows up on the maps, it's another privacy setting users should absolutely have 100% control over.
One of my opponents was doing similar sort of thing also, but although I complained to site they took no action.( perhaps not understanding my representation?) I eventually resigned game in protest/disgust and was taken to task by someone who said I was making things worse by encouraging him!In course of all this I logged 65 comments from 14 contributors during which a good deal of missunderstanding was clarified. However it still continues to be " that old subject again " I see.
I reckon it's a fairly universal tendency to move more slowly on games where we're in a losing position.
we're all goin' on a summer holiday 
no more workin' for a week or two - Cliff Richard, donkey's years ago
We were in a sharp line in the Najdorf variation (da-da-da-dum, da-da-da-dum)
Then he took two weeks and he went on vacation (da-da-da-dum, da-da-da-dum)
It looks to me that he's frightened to lose,
But there ain't no cure for the ...
There's a certain amount of gamesmanship that occurs on Chess.com. The tactic that I have frequently seen is players using time controls and vacation time in a manner that causes impatient opponents to resign in frustration. Might as well let them make the attempt and accept the fact that the game may last for awhile. Surprisingly, many of my opponents who have attempted this eventually lose on time.
Is that not a way of pretending not to have been beaten ?
For some, the rating transcends the performance.
This is the way Chess.com is set up, and everyone should use this feature. Vacation time is an advantage that you can have, or not have, over other members. You should always use it whenever you can, and get used to the idea of using it.
There is no such thing as "vacation abuse". If you don't wish to use your time, then join only tournaments where vacation isn't allowed.
There is no such thing as "vacation abuse". If you don't wish to use your time, then join only tournaments where vacation isn't allowed.
That's a little naive, I think.
There clearly are people who avoid games where they are losing, for what reason I don't know. This results in tournaments being held up, affecting dozens or maybe hundreds of players, many of whom are limited in the number of tournaments they can play because of membership restrictions.
And yes, I know, everybody can solve this by becoming platinum members, but in Africa the price of a platinum membership buys bread for a month.
Just because there's not a rule explicitly against it (and in this case there is) does't mean it can't be abused. You can't codify everything and at a certain point you have to rely on people to act in accordance with the spirit of the rule as much as the letter of it.
Incitentally, it's "timeout protection". I think "vacation protection" sound more like what the original poster is asking for -- to be protected from vacation.
It's not about abuse, it's about an inherent inequity between premium and non-premium members with respect to the way (and more importantly, when) vacation time can be initiated.
Yep the inherent inequity between those who pay and keep the site running and those who pay nothing and get the benefits.
It's not about abuse, it's about an inherent inequity between premium and non-premium members with respect to the way (and more importantly, when) vacation time can be initiated.
Yep the inherent inequity between those who pay and keep the site running and those who pay nothing and get the benefits.
The last thing that crossed my mind when I got membership was vacation protection. They can keep it, for all I care, rather give me access to 5 more tournaments
. Hey, maybe we can trade unused benefits amongst each other....
my vacation kicks in almost daily. if you play 200 games, and you go to sleep with 12 hours left on a game thinking you will have plenty of time in the morning and you sleep in, often you are just on vacation when you check next! I live on this site praying i make it to the first and the 15th! vacation time is the most precious comodity! My fiance goes to school semi far away, and she visits me each week and when she is here, I dare not make the mistake of playing when she is around! that means I can only move when she is either showering or not awake, and my games dont usually work out to be nicely timed for when she sleeps! this leads me to my strongest feeling. one day per move games will ruin you :( just sleeping in will burn vacation time. is thhhhe suckkkkk
Wow 200 games! Then yes a 1 move per day game would be bad.
There is no way I would ever try and play that many games as I know it would produce a bad quality game on my part and there is no way I would be able to keep up and I too would hit the automatic protection. How do you manage all of those games?
Thanks for your comments.