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Yesterday a player complained his opponent had played like a computer and that one then vanished from the tourney. Today we had Nick196 coming from below 1600, winning 7/7 and more than 150 rating points, beating very strongly several much better rated players just after having played computers here. Could this be checked, please?

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murrerer wrote:

Yesterday a player complained his opponent had played like a computer and that one then vanished from the tourney. Today we had Nick196 coming from below 1600, winning 7/7 and more than 150 rating points, beating very strongly several much better rated players just after having played computers here. Could this be checked, please?

You are not supposed to name members on the forum.

Questions like that are supposed to be submitted directly to support.

Cheaters & Cheating: What you Need to Know

  

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How does Chess.com detect cheating?

  • Part of our analysis involves comparing human moves to computer moves and looking at statistical significance. 
  • To remain effective, other aspects of our detection methods are confidential.


How often does Chess.com catch cheaters?

  • We are constantly going through our top players and submitting them to our cheat-detection process.  We close many accounts each week (including those of premium members).


What happens to a player who is found to be cheating on Chess.com?

  • We close their account immediately; all games in progress are awarded to their opponents
  • We do not and can not "restore" other users' ratings to what they would be in an alternate dimension where the cheater never existed!  (Don't worry - just keep playing; encountering a cheater in your chess career won't make any difference in the long run.)


How long does someone cheat before chess.com finds out?

  • We need a certain amount of game-data before we can make an informed & accurate judgement about a member.  It varies.


What should I do if my opponent accuses me of cheating?

  • Assuming that you are NOT actually cheating, our advice is to simply disable chat and continue your game.  Your opponent may be frustrated, bewildered by your superior skills, or just trying to rattle you! 
  • If you want, you can also add the accuser to your blocked-player list so they cannot contact you again.


If I reported someone for cheating, why hasn't their account been closed?

  • We appreciate you reporting the suspected cheating, but ultimately we will decide on if they were cheating or not. If we have not closed their account then the evidence is not conclusive.


You closed the account of someone I know - I'm sure they weren't cheating!

  • Sorry that you are upset. Unfortunately, people do cheat - sometimes even really nice people. Again, we only close accounts when we are absolutely certain, not because of suspicion.


Can someone appeal if their account is closed?

  • We are happy to listen, but generally speaking, appeals are unsuccessful
  • The usual pattern is that the member denies cheating and demands proof, and then we maintain that they were indeed cheating and we're not at liberty to disclose how we proved it: Pretty futile.


Why do people cheat?

  • Our best guess is a lack of respect for their opponents and for the game - often combined with low self-esteem.


What does Chess.com think about cheating?

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  • Our policies are clear & strict; they are also faithfully enforced.
  • We feel we are extremely effective in identifying and dealing with most cheaters.


What does Chess.com recommend that we do/think about cheating?

  • Forget about it!
  • If you are rated below 2000, you are NOT going to encounter a lot of cheaters
  • If you are rated above 2000, rest assured that we are always checking top players and evolving our detection methods
  • Enjoy your chess, tell us if you have concerns about a given member, and let US worry about the cheaters!

 

Note also that, to keep our regular forums free of a subject that tends to cause unnecessary anxiety, we have created a special group forum for discussions of cheating in online chess.  Please restrict your comments on the subject to that group forum. Thank you! 

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Avatar of murrerer

Thanks and sorry. Now the 3 0 tourney was won by a player again with 7/7 coming from a ridiculous 1151 after having played more than a thousand games, beating players higher than 1600+ all the time. I'll report the name as you indicated.

Avatar of mehleem

I dont get it! I was suspected of cheating or is just a coincidence that the cheating was reported through me,my "wall" message ?!

Avatar of aklikhineattack

WHAT HOW CAN A ridiculous 1151 PLAYER IN A 1600 TORNEY

Avatar of Darth_Algar

For what it's worth a person's rating may not necessarily reflect their true playing strength. Nor does being higher rated than your opponent all but guarantee that you'll win.

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SpiderMan67 wrote:

Please people dont be fooled by these people who say their rating is below 1200 and are playing like a GM. This site has serious issues when it comes to cheating. Chess.com say they have tools to catch cheaters but I went on Google to find out if such a thing exists such as engine/program detectors , and I came up with nothing. There are no sophisticated tools available on the internet to catch cheaters in chess even for perosnal use to do an analysis if you felt the player was cheating. In my opinion, as far as I can see chess.com only have the capability to follow patterns, they claim they use something but wont disclose what they are using. The lag on this server if BS, all the ads even if you are a Prime membership holder I have heard of stories from premium members who have compalined about the ads as well. The clock is absolutley shit as it claims it is accurate when it comes to playing 1 min games or more. Even though cheaters are suposedly getting caught, but they can easily make a new account and repeat their cheatery all over again, so its a vicious cycle of cheating going on in this server. Yahoo Chess was the same deal, but there you knew who the cheaters were. This site has serious issues with their clocks,ads,lag,server compatability like google chrome. I have tried different names like Safari,Opera House, fire fox ect nothing makes a difference. And may I add, CHEATERS!!   I dont think they thought this site out well enough when they created this site. The only thing I like about this place is the way they created the live chess playing, where it shows you the board players online, what type of game you want to play 1 min or more ect. Other than that, its a waste of time. I wish they would bring back Yahoo Chess, that was by far the best chess site ever, better than chess.com. This place is a joke. What upsets me is that they still have players on here who are clearly cheating but they still kep them around, CMON MAN seriously!!!  We should be allowed to name and shame as chess.com do nothing about cheaters or suspect cheaters. At least you would know who not to play and avoid. I have reported players for cheating and they are still here,WTF MAN. Thats why I will never buy a membership here nor keep an account for any time of period because of these issues. Might as well take a friend and sit with him with a chess board and play. This online gaming has serious flaws and serious issues. I have played enough online games to know this. Have a look at Spawn reported him but that guy is still here. Look at his Bullet and Blitz rating please are you for real. Ban that cheat and so many others in here that are still playing. Gargantuangoober cheat.

The site says that spiderman67's account is closed already.  It would be nice to know if it was closed by chess.com or by the member.