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AndreR37

What does this even mean? My rating has constantly fluctuated throughout my time playing in tournaments. There are times where I play at rating 1000 and other times at 750 in bullet, but this implies that I should play at my peak rating at a constant level. Is there a way to argue this and be able to play in tournaments again? It seems a bit ridiculous especially due to time pressure and different preps for each player for different lines.

notmtwain
AndreR37 wrote:

What does this even mean? My rating has constantly fluctuated throughout my time playing in tournaments. There are times where I play at rating 1000 and other times at 750 in bullet, but this implies that I should play at my peak rating at a constant level. Is there a way to argue this and be able to play in tournaments again? It seems a bit ridiculous especially due to time pressure and different preps for each player for different lines.

Your rating has fallen 355 points in only two weeks.  That's a lot more than a normal fluctuation 

mowgllli

It's keeping me from joining a bunch of tournaments which are the most fun thing on this site :/ like sometimes I'll play after some devils lettuce and drop my rating a bunch, the rules are wayyy too strict for whatever perceived damage prevented - some random trying to win a bullet tournament? the heck? 

KINGOFTIGERSKB1

SEVERAL   TIMES    I   HAVE   LOST   BY   A   DEFECTIVE     COMPUTER     PROGRAM    CLAIMING    I   ABANDONED   THE   GAME   WHEN   I   WAS   WAY   AHEAD   AND   WINNING    WITH   LOTS   OF   TIME   LEFT.    WHAT   GIVES?

justbefair
Musti_1994 wrote:

So is there a way to rejoin touraments? Or does it mean that I cannot play any tournament until I regain some rating? That is so rediculous

 

Unless you can explain how the 400 point jump in your rating last month was just a normal fluctuation...

justbefair
KINGOFTIGERSKB1 wrote:

SEVERAL   TIMES    I   HAVE   LOST   BY   A   DEFECTIVE     COMPUTER     PROGRAM    CLAIMING    I   ABANDONED   THE   GAME   WHEN   I   WAS   WAY   AHEAD   AND   WINNING    WITH   LOTS   OF   TIME   LEFT.    WHAT   GIVES?

Wrong thread. This one is about people restricted from playing tournaments because their rating has fallen too far from its peak 

infinitefrustration
Musti_1994 wrote:

So is there a way to rejoin touraments? Or does it mean that I cannot play any tournament until I regain some rating? That is so rediculous

 

I get you're frustrated, but it doesn't seem ridiculous to me. The rule is in place for a valid reason.  The server knows you can play better than your current rating so it's blocking you from competing in low rated tourneys.  Use a smurf to play when stoned...problem solved.

GBTGBA

When you have a horrible chess day it’s very possible to lose 400 points in bullet or hyperbullet not only in 2 weeks but in one day as well!  Because you’re feeling frustrated with your losses so you keep playing worse and worse ! That’s not sandbagging. But there are indeed too many sandbaggers. To protect us the site automatically block you from joining live tournaments  if your rating fall too much below your peak rating. When that happens, you usually can still play regular none tournament games. Try to get your rating up a bit and you’ll be able to join tournaments again. Cheers 🎈

matty817

no malicious intent, but you should gradually get better or at the very least stay around the same rating, if you are around a 1000 well you might need a coach , or improve your tactics .even with the devils lettuce  lol I still stay around the same rating. 4 years now

Dumbluck626

For me with leagues, I've been trying to play simultaneous games. Naturally, I do not play nearly as well while playing 10-20 games at a time as I do with one at a time. The arena tournaments are pretty much an open field anyway so I don't understand why it's even an issue to be let into those tournaments. I've played people in them from 600 - 2300+ so it doesn't make much sense to me. In reality, there should be a different rating system for simultaneous games.

GBTGBA

Simultaneous games are not allowed in league competition. Play one at a time.

Dumbluck626

Idk what you're talking about. There is no rule that says that and I'm currently in 17th place globally in Crystal League. Nobody from chess.com has reached out to me to say otherwise. You cannot play simultaneous tournament games as it is not permitted in the system. 

 

Now should simultaneous games be allowed? No, for one simple reason. Non-paying members cannot play simultaneous games. Is it in chess.com's best interest to allow simultaneous games? Absolutely! It encourages membership. If you wanna play one at a time, that's your prerogative. Until they change the rules or say otherwise, I shall continue to play, and get points for, simultaneous games.

GBTGBA

mods said so. i will show you proof.

Dumbluck626

mods are volunteers. They do not write the rules here are the rules. https://www.chess.com/news/view/chesscom-releases-leagues They have listed exclusions. Simultaneous games are not listed. I'm going to play by the official rules just like the other 2.5 million people in the leagues were given. If they decide to change it, that's fine. Until then, simultaneous games give points. End of discussion

Martin_Stahl
Dumbluck626 wrote:

Idk what you're talking about. There is no rule that says that and I'm currently in 17th place globally in Crystal League. Nobody from chess.com has reached out to me to say otherwise. You cannot play simultaneous tournament games as it is not permitted in the system. 

 

Now should simultaneous games be allowed? No, for one simple reason. Non-paying members cannot play simultaneous games. Is it in chess.com's best interest to allow simultaneous games? Absolutely! It encourages membership. If you wanna play one at a time, that's your prerogative. Until they change the rules or say otherwise, I shall continue to play, and get points for, simultaneous games.

 

Officially, simultaneous games are supposed to be unrated only and unrated games don't count for leagues. The site is actually working on a technical change to prevent simultaneous games from counting for trophies.


Regarding your first point, having a large rating decrease means that it is no longer indicative of your true strength, so the system prevents playing in events in such cases. It's a mechanism to prevent sandbagging impacting events. 

Dumbluck626

Hey Martin, This is Nathan (from Joplin). Any chance you could send me a message on Facebook or here when they do remove the simul feature. I'm honestly going for the $10,000

GBTGBA

i’m going for lifetime Diamond membership.

Dumbluck626

It's just a year, not lifetime

Dumbluck626

Unless you have a terminal illness in which case I'm very sorry

David_Mary
Dumbluck626 wrote:

Hey Martin, This is Nathan (from Joplin). Any chance you could send me a message on Facebook or here when they do remove the simul feature. I'm honestly going for the $10,000

 

So the chess.com programming left an accidental loophole to do something that is in fact contrary to the rules, and if I read you right, you want to use it anyway, right up to the last possible minute?  Because money?