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8th December 2007, 09:38am
#1
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 407

I'm looking for an effective way to fight the sicilian as white.  To the Sicilian players reading this, does the Closed Sicilian give you trouble?  And to everyone, would you recommend the Closed Sicilian?

8th December 2007, 09:44am
#2
by Redwall
Filipstad Sweden
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 291
kings gambit is a nice response
8th December 2007, 09:47am
#3
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4945

The Closed Sicilian gets a bad wrap because black equalizes in the opening phase of the game. People always say that white doesn't play for an advantage. On the other hand, what's wrong with an equal middle game position?

 

As a Sicilian player I cringe a little at the Closed. Even though I know what to play as Black, it just seems like an easy system for white. I wouldn't say it gives me trouble, but it's no worse than the Alapin, the Chamelion, the Smith Morra, the Grand Prix etc.


8th December 2007, 09:50am
#4
by Eugen
from Cherkessk, now in Moscow Russia
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 3824
Have you tryed playing 1. e4 c5 2.c3 in an attempt to maintain two central pawns. This is my favourite reply to Sicilian as white.
8th December 2007, 10:20pm
#5
by fcpanginen
FORT WASHINGTON, MARYLAND Philippines
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 556

BECAUSE OF LACKED OF OPENING KNOWLEDGE, I ALWAYS PREFER TO USE THE KING'S INDIAN ATTACK (KIA) AGAINST ANY DEFENSE. ESPECIALLY AGAINST SICILIAN, 1.E4 C5 2.NC3 WITH A KING'S BISHOP FIANCHETTO.THE REST IS OVER THE BOARD ANALYSIS.

 

9th December 2007, 06:05am
#6
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 407

I always thought KIA was knight at D2 and f3...

9th December 2007, 06:14am
#7
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857
Spassky was probably the greatest champion of the closed sicilian, it served him well for years. I have played it myself as white and drawn with IMs and Gms using it. If you are looking for something other than the open variations against sicilian I think the closed is as good as 2c3 or any other "anti-sicilian" line.
9th December 2007, 06:30am
#8
by Markle
Buckhannon,Wv United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 404

 

 I have had pretty good results with the closed Sicilian over the years, it saves a lot of time studying all the other replys to the various Sicilians out there.

9th December 2007, 06:35am
#9
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 407
Yeah, being lazy and all, it was appealing as it avoided all that intense sicilian theory.
9th December 2007, 06:48am
#10
by Decoy321
Brabant Netherlands
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 240

The KIA is a nice setup, but I usually move out my bisshop before Nd2

25th December 2007, 01:22pm
#11
by hicetnunc
Neuilly-sur-Seine France
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 5379

I think the closed sicilian is a very nice choice for white against the Sicilian.

 There are not many black set-ups, so you can build up specialized knowledge pretty fast.


30th January 2008, 02:43pm
#12
by scandinaviandefense
Michigan United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 459
The Closed is my response to the Sicilian, and I really recommend it.
30th January 2008, 02:55pm
#13
by erik
Bay Area, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 12891
i have been playing the closed for YEARS. but those who are good on the black side make it REALLY hard :(
30th January 2008, 03:31pm
#14
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 4250
Play the Moscow and Rosslimmo.  It is really annoying for Sicilian players.
31st January 2008, 10:30am
#15
by scandinaviandefense
Michigan United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 459

The Closed Sicilian usually leads to positional maneuvering, so if you like tactics, pick something else.

I like tactics, but I am studying maneuvering, so I started playing some closed openings.

31st January 2008, 10:35am
#16
by Graw81
Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1066
whatever you do dont neglect studying open sicilian positions. Even if you decide to play closed sicilian, study the open, it will do you the world of good. Reb is correct about Spassky, look at Spassky games using closed system, very good lessons.
3rd February 2008, 11:35pm
#17
by eric77
MANILA Philippines
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1

KIA is a good alternative against the sicilian, it seems your in full control.


21st January 2012, 02:37am
#18
by andymorisseau
St Louis United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 11

I think it helps white to avoid the open lines of the sicilian if he is not ready for them.  The open sicilian leads to a less intense middle game which is ideal for someone not familuar with the theory of the opening.

21st January 2012, 02:46am
#19
by NimzoRoy
Eureka United States
Member Since: Sep 2009
Member Points: 4049
Reb wrote:
Spassky was probably the greatest champion of the closed sicilian, it served him well for years. I have played it myself as white and drawn with IMs and Gms using it. If you are looking for something other than the open variations against sicilian I think the closed is as good as 2c3 or any other "anti-sicilian" line.
 Second the motion, also check out Smyslov's (another ex-champ) handling of the Closed SD, probably his line is very outdated as he played 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.d3 d6 6.Ne2 which Spassky improved by playing 6.f4 and 7.Nf3. On the other hand, your opponent may not have a clue regarding how Black can equalize in this line - NimzoRoy

GOOD LUCK!

21st January 2012, 04:05am
#20
by helltank
Singapore Singapore
Member Since: Jul 2011
Member Points: 418

I personally always play 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 and next move c4 to clamp down on d5(because d5 is often a way for black to challenge the white centre). Unless he plays d6. Then I play d4, cxd4, Nxd4, and c4 against whatever he plays next.

 

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