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8th December 2007, 09:38am
#1
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 404

I'm looking for an effective way to fight the sicilian as white.  To the Sicilian players reading this, does the Closed Sicilian give you trouble?  And to everyone, would you recommend the Closed Sicilian?

8th December 2007, 09:44am
#2
by Redwall
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 270
kings gambit is a nice response
8th December 2007, 09:47am
#3
by Loomis
Tallahassee, FL United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2002

The Closed Sicilian gets a bad wrap because black equalizes in the opening phase of the game. People always say that white doesn't play for an advantage. On the other hand, what's wrong with an equal middle game position?

 

As a Sicilian player I cringe a little at the Closed. Even though I know what to play as Black, it just seems like an easy system for white. I wouldn't say it gives me trouble, but it's no worse than the Alapin, the Chamelion, the Smith Morra, the Grand Prix etc.


8th December 2007, 09:50am
#4
by Eugen
Cherkessk Russia
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 141
Have you tryed playing 1. e4 c5 2.c3 in an attempt to maintain two central pawns. This is my favourite reply to Sicilian as white.
8th December 2007, 10:20pm
#5
by fcpanginen
FORT WASHINGTON, MARYLAND United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 385

BECAUSE OF LACKED OF OPENING KNOWLEDGE, I ALWAYS PREFER TO USE THE KING'S INDIAN ATTACK (KIA) AGAINST ANY DEFENSE. ESPECIALLY AGAINST SICILIAN, 1.E4 C5 2.NC3 WITH A KING'S BISHOP FIANCHETTO.THE REST IS OVER THE BOARD ANALYSIS.

 

9th December 2007, 06:05am
#6
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 404

I always thought KIA was knight at D2 and f3...

9th December 2007, 06:14am
#7
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1594
Spassky was probably the greatest champion of the closed sicilian, it served him well for years. I have played it myself as white and drawn with IMs and Gms using it. If you are looking for something other than the open variations against sicilian I think the closed is as good as 2c3 or any other "anti-sicilian" line.
9th December 2007, 06:30am
#8
by Markle
Buckhannon,Wv United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 230

 

 I have had pretty good results with the closed Sicilian over the years, it saves a lot of time studying all the other replys to the various Sicilians out there.

9th December 2007, 06:35am
#9
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 404
Yeah, being lazy and all, it was appealing as it avoided all that intense sicilian theory.
9th December 2007, 06:48am
#10
by Decoy321
Brabant Netherlands
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 202

The KIA is a nice setup, but I usually move out my bisshop before Nd2

25th December 2007, 01:22pm
#11
by hicetnunc
Neuilly-sur-Seine France
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 357

I think the closed sicilian is a very nice choice for white against the Sicilian.

 There are not many black set-ups, so you can build up specialized knowledge pretty fast.


30th January 2008, 02:43pm
#12
by scandinaviandefense
Michigan United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 459
The Closed is my response to the Sicilian, and I really recommend it.
30th January 2008, 02:55pm
#13
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 5419
i have been playing the closed for YEARS. but those who are good on the black side make it REALLY hard :(
30th January 2008, 03:31pm
#14
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 868
Play the Moscow and Rosslimmo.  It is really annoying for Sicilian players.
31st January 2008, 10:30am
#15
by scandinaviandefense
Michigan United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 459

The Closed Sicilian usually leads to positional maneuvering, so if you like tactics, pick something else.

I like tactics, but I am studying maneuvering, so I started playing some closed openings.

31st January 2008, 10:35am
#16
by Graw81
Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 878
whatever you do dont neglect studying open sicilian positions. Even if you decide to play closed sicilian, study the open, it will do you the world of good. Reb is correct about Spassky, look at Spassky games using closed system, very good lessons.
3rd February 2008, 11:35pm
#17
by eric77
MANILA Philippines
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1

KIA is a good alternative against the sicilian, it seems your in full control.


4th February 2008, 01:21am
#18
by Dmytro
Kiev Ukraine
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 187

Yes, I have some troubles when I (black) face closed Sicilian. May be it is because Sicilian players are rather prepared to Rauzer or Sozin attack that to a closed game. Also, I think, I dislike this variation because of closed center which could appear after knight exchanges on d5 or d4, for example. An after this, if you (I mean black) push f5 you will have a “hole” on e6.

 

But keep in mind that Sicilian players are ready to play the Closed Sicilian as Ruy Lopez lovers are ready to beat Marshall gambit.


 

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